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Title: Free Stealth Software
Post by: lordcameltoe on April 07, 2011, 05:07:47 AM
Since many people have been asking me in private to show them how to get Dman's 100$ stealth software to work for free, I figured I would share it with you folks.  

I have tested it for over 24 hours now letting it run non-stop on my work computer where I edit video, work on graphics, play video games, etc.  Sometimes I do it all at the same time.  I have yet to experience a crash or lag.  I have also been able to hide virtually every process on my computer at once.

Here are step-by-step instructions :

1 - Download the 219.38kb DEMO version, not the open source version (you will need to register an account before downloading from this link : http://www.codeproject.com/KB/system/hide-driver.aspx (http://www.codeproject.com/KB/system/hide-driver.aspx))

2 - Unzip the HideDriver.sys file somewhere on your harddrive.

3 - Launch the .exe

4 - In the INSTALL tab, write down the path to the .sys file.  In my case, I put it in the C drive, so the path was C:/HideDriver.sys

5 - Then click the INSTALL button

6 - Then click the RUN button

7 - Next go to the PROCESS tab and right click inside the white area

8 - Select ADD

9 - Click on the "..." button in the PROCESS NAME field

10 - Select the process you want to hide (if your bot process name is svchost.exe, then select it.)  Then click OK.

11 - Click on ADD

12 - Repeat the process for any the process' you want to hide

13 - Enjoy the free stealth program.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.  If this still seems to complicated for some people, then I might take the time to make a video on how to setup the stealth software.

If you like my tutorial, feel free to hit the Karma button. Cheers


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: going_deaf on April 07, 2011, 07:18:34 AM
Thanks for posting. I'm trying to RUN it but to no avail. It says: "Can't start service: The handle is invalid." uploaded it twice. Once in Local Disc (C) and once where I store my bot. Any suggestions?


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: piden on April 07, 2011, 07:36:12 AM
x64 windows version is not supported because of PatchGuard
remember to run the program as administrator before it works if you are running vista or 7


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: lordcameltoe on April 07, 2011, 11:45:30 AM
x64 windows version is not supported because of PatchGuard
remember to run the program as administrator before it works if you are running vista or 7

Most people should be running the bot under a VM using Windows XP anyhow.  Thats what I test my version on.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: lordcameltoe on April 07, 2011, 11:47:22 AM
Thanks for posting. I'm trying to RUN it but to no avail. It says: "Can't start service: The handle is invalid." uploaded it twice. Once in Local Disc (C) and once where I store my bot. Any suggestions?

Thats the same error I was getting at first when I wasn't doing everything in the correct order.  PM me with teamviewer info if you like and we can setup a time so that I can login and see if there is anything wrong.

But try to go over the steps one at a time again to see if you didn't make a typo or something.  :)


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: going_deaf on April 07, 2011, 05:20:38 PM

Got it! Thanks  party0007.gif


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: lordcameltoe on April 07, 2011, 07:48:25 PM
Another question that many people have been asking me in private is : Will this software hide the fact you are using a VM?.

Well, firstly, I am not a computer security expert, I don't know if Poker Rooms scan to see if you are using a VM.  However, to answer the question, I see that it IS possible for software to detect if you are using a Virtual Machine.

I found this article explaining how to do it : http://www.codeproject.com/KB/system/VmDetect.aspx (http://www.codeproject.com/KB/system/VmDetect.aspx)

Now, does the stealth software hide the process well enough so that your VM is undetectable?  I don't know.  Probably not.

Can you hide the VM?  I don't know, I'm not technically saavy enough to answer that.  Maybe someone could find a similar program to prevent programs from detecting if you're using a VM or not.  But my opinion is : You can take off your tin foil hat, I don't think poker rooms are looking for users using VMs.

What you COULD try to do is install the stealth software on each instance inside your VM as well as your host computer.  Hide all related process inside your Virtual Machine, then hide all process on your host computer.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: webber04 on April 07, 2011, 07:50:42 PM
the only problem i see with this program, (and maybe im using it wrong) is that it hides ALL instances of svchost.  If this is the case then I think poker sites will catch on to no svchost processes running which will cause a red flag.

unless there is a way to just hide the specific bot file


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Deathmatch on April 07, 2011, 08:05:53 PM
rename the bot and after that hide him. I think that will solve the problem....


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: webber04 on April 07, 2011, 08:10:33 PM
ill try that


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: womb on April 07, 2011, 08:24:57 PM
Another question that many people have been asking me in private is : Will this software hide the fact you are using a VM?.

Well, firstly, I am not a computer security expert, I don't know if Poker Rooms scan to see if you are using a VM.  However, to answer the question, I see that it IS possible for software to detect if you are using a Virtual Machine.

I found this article explaining how to do it : http://www.codeproject.com/KB/system/VmDetect.aspx (http://www.codeproject.com/KB/system/VmDetect.aspx)

Now, does the stealth software hide the process well enough so that your VM is undetectable?  I don't know.  Probably not.

Can you hide the VM?  I don't know, I'm not technically saavy enough to answer that.  Maybe someone could find a similar program to prevent programs from detecting if you're using a VM or not.  But my opinion is : You can take off your tin foil hat, I don't think poker rooms are looking for users using VMs.

What you COULD try to do is install the stealth software on each instance inside your VM as well as your host computer.  Hide all related process inside your Virtual Machine, then hide all process on your host computer.

You can detect a VM, but a VM isnt illegal. I am using a VMware for manual play as there are no native linux poker clients...


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: lordcameltoe on April 07, 2011, 08:27:25 PM
You can detect a VM, but a VM isnt illegal. I am using a VMware for manual play as there are no native linux poker clients...

exactly, thats why in my opinion you shouldn't be worried about hiding the VMware process.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: One Eye JACK on April 07, 2011, 09:47:17 PM
So the way Im seeing this, a Vm or this stealth feature doesn't really keep the bot from being detected. Am I correct in this assumption? Im just trying to understand all of this, because if the bot can be still detected Im not going to mess around and use the bot on merge since that is where my main account is. :-\


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: lordcameltoe on April 07, 2011, 10:32:41 PM
So the way Im seeing this, a Vm or this stealth feature doesn't really keep the bot from being detected. Am I correct in this assumption? Im just trying to understand all of this, because if the bot can be still detected Im not going to mess around and use the bot on merge since that is where my main account is. :-\

The truth is nobody is 100% certain how the bot is detected except for the poker room security team. Whats being explained here are additional ways you can try and secure your bot.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Bigspender2010 on April 08, 2011, 06:57:33 AM
I am using a VM for internetsurfing and  a VM to play poker, so no password spy program can spy for my poker site password.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Mimic on April 08, 2011, 01:06:33 PM
the only problem i see with this program, (and maybe im using it wrong) is that it hides ALL instances of svchost.  If this is the case then I think poker sites will catch on to no svchost processes running which will cause a red flag.

unless there is a way to just hide the specific bot file

I believe this program lets you choose which running process to hide, so you don't have to hide all svchost processes, just the one related to the bot.
I think you can also hide specific files on your hard drive, so you should be able to hide the bot's exe and dll file, as well as any ppl files.
I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but I do notice that it has specific tab for processes and files, and within those respective tabs, when you right-click "add", a window will pop up, letting you specifically select process and files to hide.
But I'm going to have to muck around with the software to confirm all this.

BTW, in the article describing this program they wrote:
"More interesting features can be added using SST hooking but they were not implemented in this project frame:

•Hiding of registry keys
•Hiding of the list of services and drivers
•Hiding of opened handles (file, process, etc.)
•Storing of the parameters in the registry or *.xml file"

So maybe if someone here is knowledgeable in programming, can add those features by that SST hooking they are talking about or add other features that can make the bot more stealthy.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: ForeverFiring on April 08, 2011, 01:52:29 PM
One thing thats certain is that yes, there are the few of us that might be running linux systems and need to play manually thru a virtual machine, but I think if you weighed up the amount of those using a vm to bot as opposed to those using a vm for legitimate purposes, vms are used moreso by botters.

We won't ever truely know how we are being detected unless our dad is a ceo at the respective poker site, but taking every precaution WE CAN with the knowledge that is available should not be overlooked.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: One Eye JACK on April 08, 2011, 06:55:44 PM
Is there any stealth software for a 64 bit system? Im starting to feel left out here. :(


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: spartan2012 on April 09, 2011, 01:22:36 AM
I believe this program lets you choose which running process to hide, so you don't have to hide all svchost processes, just the one related to the bot.
I think you can also hide specific files on your hard drive, so you should be able to hide the bot's exe and dll file, as well as any ppl files.
I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but I do notice that it has specific tab for processes and files, and within those respective tabs, when you right-click "add", a window will pop up, letting you specifically select process and files to hide.
But I'm going to have to muck around with the software to confirm all this.

BTW, in the article describing this program they wrote:
"More interesting features can be added using SST hooking but they were not implemented in this project frame:

•Hiding of registry keys
•Hiding of the list of services and drivers
•Hiding of opened handles (file, process, etc.)
•Storing of the parameters in the registry or *.xml file"

So maybe if someone here is knowledgeable in programming, can add those features by that SST hooking they are talking about or add other features that can make the bot more stealthy.


you think maybee thats what Dman did when he said he improved it for BOT'S?



Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: lordcameltoe on April 09, 2011, 02:07:59 AM
you think maybee thats what Dman did when he said he improved it for BOT'S?



Then he would have mentionned it when we asked him what he had changed.  His response is that he made the software stable because it caused Bluescreens and crashes.  When asked what else he changed, he never answered, got mad about getting attacked and asked for the thread to get deleted.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Egor on April 09, 2011, 09:19:41 AM
The bot folder needs to be renamed, moved, and/or hidden, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: benetkak on April 09, 2011, 12:11:24 PM
Is there any stealth software for a 64 bit system? Im starting to feel left out here. :(
+1
 :(


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: lordcameltoe on April 09, 2011, 04:14:17 PM
Is there any stealth software for a 64 bit system? Im starting to feel left out here. :(

Have you tried SnoopFree?  I haven't tried it on a 64 bit system, but it may be just as helpful.

Do note however that SnoopFree WILL cause the stealth software to crash, so you can't have both running at the same time.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Poker8 on April 09, 2011, 05:02:37 PM
Do note however that SnoopFree WILL cause the stealth software to crash, so you can't have both running at the same time.

Thats odd, SnoopFree did not cause mine to crash.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Mimic on April 09, 2011, 05:52:55 PM
Is snoopfree still useful?
It's so old, that you would think any poker software can circumvent it, if it wants to read your processes or screenscrape.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: lordcameltoe on April 09, 2011, 06:11:00 PM
Thats odd, SnoopFree did not cause mine to crash.

I had someone trying to figure out why the program kept crashing on him.  When he turned off SnoopFree, it stopped crashing.  I issued the warning for those that would encounter the same problem.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: funkador on April 09, 2011, 10:45:47 PM
Hi, I tried it and i hide the bot and the hopper, but after that the hopper crashed, it seems that it's not as stable as it should be. And i saw other problem, when i reset the VM i need to repeat the whole process.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: webber04 on April 09, 2011, 11:25:04 PM
if using hydra, there is no reason to hide the hopper


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: terminator on April 09, 2011, 11:33:02 PM
yep you have to repeat whole process and like webber said before after hiding one svchost process all of them will be hidden which may look bit suspicious.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: polpol on April 10, 2011, 12:33:59 AM
yep you have to repeat whole process and like webber said before after hiding one svchost process all of them will be hidden which may look bit suspicious.

Just rename the Bot from svchost to what ever you want .
And hide it, with the stealth tool.
Then you don't  hide all the svchost processor.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: funkador on April 10, 2011, 04:24:06 PM
Quote
if using hydra, there is no reason to hide the hopper

Why not? I know that the bot process is the most important, but what if they decide to search for the hopper?


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Botopotamus on April 12, 2011, 06:29:27 AM
I'm surprised that I haven't seen anyone ask, but has anyone been brave enough to try this software at FTP?


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: donkeyking777 on April 14, 2011, 12:10:23 AM
do I have to hide and rename all the file in the bot folder? If i hide my profile in a zip like rar file can poker site still find like ppl file?


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: jdaces on April 15, 2011, 07:09:35 AM
As a long time member, I am not that tech savvy but know the ins and outs but think this should be included in the bot purchase agreement and be implemented when we d/l the new bot programs inclusive. Anyone agree?


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: lucky1 on April 15, 2011, 07:14:33 AM
Sounds good in theory, but not sure if egor would agree / and or how hard it would be to implement into the bot itself.  -L1


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Mimic on April 15, 2011, 06:34:56 PM
As a long time member, I am not that tech savvy but know the ins and outs but think this should be included in the bot purchase agreement and be implemented when we d/l the new bot programs inclusive. Anyone agree?

Well this is an open source program and there is a page on that download website, which basically says you can modify the program, but can't sell the program for profit, so I doubt egor can bundle the stealth program with the bot download.
However, I'm sure MS could come up with some sort of stealth integrated within the bot, that wouldn't infringe on the stealth program terms.
But then again, we don't even know for sure yet, if this stealth thing works.
We still don't 100% know, how these rooms are detecting the bot.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: TightFish on May 02, 2011, 05:11:30 PM
Hi

I have a question regarding stealth fulltilt.

Is it possible to put and run all botsoftware from a USB stick? and maybe hide it.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Bigspender2010 on May 02, 2011, 05:21:54 PM
usb - yes


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Filipe_feup on May 03, 2011, 11:45:43 AM
I have downloaded the software but when i click in run  RUN it but to no avail. It says: "Can't start service: The handle is invalid.". . I have already tried run in administrator mode and still dont working....

Anyone can help me please?

Im using Windows 7 x86

Sorry the bad English
Tks,
Filipe


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Mimic on May 03, 2011, 02:26:09 PM
I have downloaded the software but when i click in run  RUN it but to no avail. It says: "Can't start service: The handle is invalid.". . I have already tried run in administrator mode and still dont working....

Anyone can help me please?

Im using Windows 7 x86

Sorry the bad English
Tks,
Filipe

Isn't Windows 7 a 64-bit OS?
Program won't work on 64-bit OS.
Piden mentioned in earlier post to try running program as administrator.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: onicamaro on May 03, 2011, 02:32:40 PM
Win 7 has a 64bit version yes, but as he mentioned it is the x86 version which is 32bit.

I'm not at home so can not verify, but from the little experience I have with it I always have problems with it specialy if you didn't keep it in it's default folder, the program doesn't seem to remember where you put it so you have to point it to the .sys every time..


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Mimic on May 03, 2011, 02:50:32 PM
Win 7 has a 64bit version yes, but as he mentioned it is the x86 version which is 32bit.

I'm not at home so can not verify, but from the little experience I have with it I always have problems with it specialy if you didn't keep it in it's default folder, the program doesn't seem to remember where you put it so you have to point it to the .sys every time..

Ok...understand the x86 now.
So I guess he/she needs to run the program in admin mode.
Should probably press "Install" button, before the "Run" button, provided he has the right directory where the .sys file is located.
@usagi
I think you are right, whenever you start the program, it defaults to the c: drive, so you need to redirect it to where your .sys file is located.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Filipe_feup on May 03, 2011, 03:50:33 PM
Tks for the help.

Im always runnig the software in admin mode.
I have already put the program in C:\ path.
When i trie several 3-4 times after rebboting the pc i give me always a error "Can't start service: The handle is invalid."
After trie several times my Pc crash (bluesreen).
 >:(

Tks for the help


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: TP4LiFE on May 04, 2011, 05:25:06 PM
thanks for this guide very helpful.

one question though, if i rename the bot .exe file do i also need to rename svhost.exe.manifest to the new filename.exe.manifest?


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: postenjak on May 05, 2011, 06:29:59 PM
Since this is such a powerfull stealth method (because it can also hide files) how about bonus bots team start to consider different type of licence keys - online. The bot would connect to an online database and check for data there, instead of a local file.

This way whole bot folder can be hidden and there is no way a poker room can find it


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: casinobill on May 05, 2011, 09:08:18 PM
Please - no phoning home. I'm happy the bot is as encapsulated as it is.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: piden on May 11, 2011, 05:56:48 PM
Since this is such a powerfull stealth method (because it can also hide files) how about bonus bots team start to consider different type of licence keys - online. The bot would connect to an online database and check for data there, instead of a local file.

This way whole bot folder can be hidden and there is no way a poker room can find it
it will not prevent them from discovering the dll injecting


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: postenjak on May 11, 2011, 06:23:02 PM
Let the race begin, who will first find or write software that will hide injected dll. Might be a good market for it :)


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: spinner on May 15, 2011, 08:31:27 AM
By the way, anyone having trouble when using HideDriver? When I use it, my bots will attach to tables via BC but will not do anything after that, i.e reading cards, autoplay etc. My steps for HideDriver are as follows:

Run BC and load bots > Hide BC > Open HideDriver and hide BC, bot and HideDriver itself > Close HideDriver > Open poker room > Register for MTTs

When it is time, tourney table comes up, BC attach the bot to it and the bot will not do anything after that. Will appreciate any help   dankk2.gif

Oh yeah and I have set all the poker room settings as per bonusbot manual.


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: spinner on May 16, 2011, 02:06:31 PM
By the way, anyone having trouble when using HideDriver? When I use it, my bots will attach to tables via BC but will not do anything after that, i.e reading cards, autoplay etc. My steps for HideDriver are as follows:

Run BC and load bots > Hide BC > Open HideDriver and hide BC, bot and HideDriver itself > Close HideDriver > Open poker room > Register for MTTs

When it is time, tourney table comes up, BC attach the bot to it and the bot will not do anything after that. Will appreciate any help   dankk2.gif

Oh yeah and I have set all the poker room settings as per bonusbot manual.



Any help or advice?


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: artwork on June 20, 2011, 10:21:43 PM
Hello guys i have problem what i should do when i get that error : "Can't start service. The handle is invalid" i run that program like an administrator but sill the same. one question though, if i rename the bot .exe file do i also need to rename svhost.exe.manifest to the new filename.exe.manifest?


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: onicamaro on June 21, 2011, 06:15:29 PM


Any help or advice?

I do the exact same, but it seems tp work for me..


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: PokerFox12 on July 08, 2011, 06:35:11 AM
BTW: This tool only hide the files and process if you are trying to do search with windows, but you still can see the files or processess with real operating system like linux or Mac...


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: greenpoker44 on March 22, 2013, 05:55:41 AM
Potentially, there will be US real $$ sites sometime in the future. I think for botting at these new US sites, including Zynga, stealth will need to be a high priority. Probably a remote desktop method will not be supported, where the bot is not on the poker client system, but I think that would work best. Just more difficult to support (using OCR to know where to click, etc.).


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Aces in your Face on November 13, 2015, 06:44:25 PM
Hiding the bot seems like a big mess and headache for non programmers and maybe the site where the bot is sold should explain this instead of making it look like it is easy to hide the bot from software sites...maybe i read it wrong...i may stop depositing and just play freerolls wonder if chances of bot getting busted are slimmer because i am not playing on cash tables?? anyone know this?


Title: Re: Free Stealth Software
Post by: Aces in your Face on November 13, 2015, 07:06:02 PM
Figured out how to get it to scan the fr..need it on mtt tab.  but ya so what are chances of program and bot getting busted if i am not using a vpn or anything like that? even so i am only doing freerolls and cheap buy ins would they really even scrutinize my account?

If I am better off or even safer to do vpn to keep using the bot...are their people that can do that for a fee because i have no clue how to do any of that