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« on: September 29, 2014, 05:01:39 AM »

This is another Doodle tweak, but obviously you can tweak any cash game profile with it as well. However, please note that the Doodle user-variables have been blended in to set true in this profile (as of version 10). If using a different cash game profile as a back-up which has it's own user-variables, you should manually blend those in. This might require emailing your profile creator to get them.

Style of Play:

I tried to make a LAG profile for 6-max cash tables that generally plays them the way I do personally. Lots of loose open-raising, and lots of random raising of one opponent on the flop, including some check-raising from first-position as the pre-flop aggressor. Also some random pushing on the flop with good hands + certain draws (only after an opponent bets or raises, so not nearly as much of this as the Little Green profile does).

I'd like to further develop this. Anyone who wants to help with that, please post bot-logs of hands played with your suggestions for improvement.

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Get the profile here:

www.bonusbots.com/6pack.txt
 
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2014, 05:04:51 AM »

I forgot to mention this profile also attempts to steal pots with aggressive play on the Turn with a pair flopped, and also makes a fair amount of random river-steal attempts when there was no betting on the Turn.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2014, 02:58:45 PM »

Nice lag Profile, maybe too loose when stealing from sb. Wonder why it's ok from co to SB position but often open limps from utg with small pairs or suited starting hands. This is the major improvement i'd l├Čke to see, maybe don't agree with the min 3bet with speculative hands and pairs like 88 77 66 55 but it's fun to see playing such a lag preflop strategy!
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2014, 10:51:48 PM »

Just glanced over this and is this a typo in the last line?:

...stacksize and (not havepair)

shouldn't it read:

...stacksize and not (havepair) ?

or does it not matter?
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2014, 02:43:48 AM »

Doesn't matter when only one condition is inside the bracket -- matters when there are more.

When not (this or that or this or that)
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2014, 09:53:02 AM »

I like this profile, got results on micros. I only let it run for 1 hour or 2 at present as im still in the beginners stage.
I want to learn the ppl when i get time, realy want to make a fun profile that goes for mid runs, more of a tilter if u like. I recon it would be a good weapon for players who think they sussed your style out.
Is there any profile been made like what i looking for?  Good stuff egor.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2014, 02:58:33 PM »

Well you might try Wild Bill. Buy in for 1/2 of as max stack. It plays pretty wild. But when it triples up it screws down and only pushes with the goods (your opponents, of course, don't know that so will keep calling their stack with lesser hands trying to catch it bluffing).
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2014, 07:53:44 PM »

I like this profile, got results on micros. I only let it run for 1 hour or 2 at present as im still in the beginners stage.
I want to learn the ppl when i get time, realy want to make a fun profile that goes for mid runs, more of a tilter if u like. I recon it would be a good weapon for players who think they sussed your style out.
Is there any profile been made like what i looking for?  Good stuff egor.

 Nice to hear you have had some nice results.

Can you be more specific with your results, amount won etc. . .

  Good work to you Egor as well.

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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2014, 10:28:46 PM »

Just tried it out and it broke even after about 45 mins of play. It would have shown a 50bb profit if not for this hand:

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.6.3: Hand: Ah As
Players = 5 have AA
Raise
hands played in session = 43
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 2, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 2
casino = Netbet, game = No Limit Cash, BB = 0.02, Pot = 9 BBs, Stack = 3.41, TI = 0 BBs
In Small Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle 104", Action = raisepot force
Matching user defined condition at line 12, Action = call force
clicking Call
msg = Dealer: Player SouzMultfilm was disconnected and has 32 seconds to reconnect.

msg = Dealer: Player SouzMultfilm was disconnected and has 1 seconds to reconnect.

Flop: 8h 9h 5s
Board: 2 suits possible straight
have overpair
also have backdoor nut flush draw
also only one straight possible
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Netbet, game = No Limit Cash, BB = 0.02, Pot = 13 BBs, Stack = 3.34, TI = 4 BBs
opponents = 2, position = first
Raise if no raises
clicking POT
clicking POT
clicking Bet
msg = Dealer: Player SouzMultfilm was disconnected and has 32 seconds to reconnect.

msg = Dealer: Player SouzMultfilm was disconnected and has 1 seconds to reconnect.

in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 5, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = Netbet, game = No Limit Cash, BB = 0.02, Pot = 206 BBs, Stack = 0.00, TI = 171 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 104", Action = call force

Maybe a raise (or all in maybe) pre flop to narrow the field down? AA is prown to being beaten in multiway pots.

Either way we'd have lost the hand anyway because he would have called the all in looking at his stats (which bot don't know about of course)

Also this hand:

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.6.3: Hand: 9c Jc
Players = 5 have J9 suited
If calls = 0 and opponents left > 3 and raises = 0, call and call all raises but fold for two cold raises
If calls = 0 and opponents left <= 3, raise and call all raises
Defend Big Blind
hands played in session = 34
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 2, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 2
casino = Netbet, game = No Limit Cash, BB = 0.02, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 2.90, TI = 0 BBs
In Small Blind
corrected folds = 4
Default Profile: "Doodle 104", Action = raise force
Matching user defined condition at line 4, Action = raise 2 force
typing 0.06
clicking Raise
Flop: Ks Kc 8s
Board: pair with 2 suits
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Netbet, game = No Limit Cash, BB = 0.02, Pot = 6 BBs, Stack = 2.85, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Fold
Default Profile: "Doodle 104", Action = betpot force
User defined variable usercr set to true at line 15
Matching user defined condition at line 18, Action = bet 75% force
typing 0.09
clicking Bet
Turn: Ks Kc 8s Tc
Board: Pair no possible straight two of one suit
have flush draw and straight draw
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Netbet, game = No Limit Cash, BB = 0.02, Pot = 15 BBs, Stack = 2.76, TI = 7 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
raise if bet and fold if reraised else bet and fold if raised
Not betting because of Never Bet Below option value
clicking Check
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = Netbet, game = No Limit Cash, BB = 0.02, Pot = 20 BBs, Stack = 2.76, TI = 7 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 104", Action = fold force
clicking Fold

Worth a call there for his bet size considering we have straight and flush draws?

If we hit on the river we dominate his Kx hand, unless it's K10 of course. I don't put him on a flush draw there.


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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2014, 01:07:47 AM »

Thanks for the hands.

Well the preflop call with AA when raises = 1 and amounttocall <= 4 is a 35% randomized action, so two-thirds of the time we do re-raise there. And we'll certainly push if reraised again. Can't see pushing when amounttocall < = 4 and I think it is important to randomize some of our actions so that we wake up with hands they don't expect us to have sometimes.

I don't like calling that big bet on the turn with only a drawing hand -- with only one card to come, we simply aren't getting the odds. We need to push or fold there, and I think folding has more value, especially when a pair is on board.

but  thanks
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2014, 05:29:46 PM »

Hi Egor

Love this profile, I have tried to look through the code but it seems to get really splashy once it has more than doubled up.

Is this just my imagination?

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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2014, 07:01:43 PM »

So you think it should tighten up after making a certain profit (like Wild Bill)?

Interesting take. Would be easy to do, just have to split some of the open-raising hands into a separate codeline and add when (not stacksize < 200)
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2014, 07:24:24 PM »

Thanks for the hands.

Well the preflop call with AA when raises = 1 and amounttocall <= 4 is a 35% randomized action, so two-thirds of the time we do re-raise there. And we'll certainly push if reraised again. Can't see pushing when amounttocall < = 4 and I think it is important to randomize some of our actions so that we wake up with hands they don't expect us to have sometimes.

I don't like calling that big bet on the turn with only a drawing hand -- with only one card to come, we simply aren't getting the odds. We need to push or fold there, and I think folding has more value, especially when a pair is on board.

but  thanks

 Thanks as always for your input.

RE AA hand, ok I didn't know it was a randomised action.

RE J9 hand, big turn bet? It was only a 1/3 pot bet. Fair enough with the rest of what you said though.
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2014, 07:28:05 PM »

I see that now, thanks. I guess you're right that Turn bet could have been called (or better yet raised).
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2014, 07:30:38 PM »

I must admit when I sat watching that I thought the bot was going to push all in with the way this profile plays.

Was shocked when he folded.

Never mind, probably saved me some money because that small bet from him is something I would do with K10 in that situation.
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2014, 07:59:12 PM »

Hi Egor,

Is the opposite of this in the code already (not stacksize < 200) where does it get the liberal raising from when above 200bb?

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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2014, 08:16:21 PM »

You would have to make that tweak yourself. I'm just saying you could divide the open-raising codelines into two groups, one that only plays when your stacksize is < 200.
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2014, 10:35:05 AM »

When (bets = 1 or raises = 1) and opponents = 1 and potsize > 5% stacksize and potsize < 20% stacksize and not (paironboard or flushpossible or straightpossible) and (haveset or havetwopair or hand = AA or havenutflushdraw)and random <= 50 raisemax force

When (bets = 1 or raises = 1) and opponents = 1 and potsize > 5% stacksize and potsize < 20% stacksize and not (paironboard or flushpossible or straightpossible) and havestraightdraw and overcards >= 1 and random <= 25 raisemax force

The above two lines in the flop section I have noticed parts are in brackets on one line and on the next line not? Is this correct?
(haveset or havetwopair or hand = AA or havenutflushdraw) in brackets
havestraightdraw and overcards >= 1 not in brackets
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2014, 06:42:36 PM »

'and' conditions need not be bracketed

'or' conditions must be
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2014, 08:23:00 PM »

'and' conditions need not be bracketed

'or' conditions must be

Thanks Egor!! thumbsup
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