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« on: January 05, 2012, 10:09:02 PM »

Profile link: www.BonusBots.com/wildbill.txt

» Doodle tweak (run Doodle .ppl cash game profile at the same time, even for tournaments)

» Buyin for 50 BB’s in cash games! (No more, no less – do not play shallow or deep stack tables, stick to the normal 100 BB max buyin games, especially 6-max tables).

» Do not take profits or use a stop-loss! Do not hop tables! Just let it keep playing for 6-10 hours.

This is my latest profile, which is really fun to watch. I modeled it after a friend of mine who is also fun to watch play; in fact he absolutely makes the game at any table he sits down at. As you may expect, it pushes a lot. I love it. But if the idea of preflop shoving with 87 suited or 55 makes you shudder, this profile probably is not for you. My friend who plays wild usually has a large stack at some point in the session, being as he gets a lot of action. Similarly, it is a rare session that this profile does not triple up its starting stack at some point (albeit sometimes that doesn’t get it even on the session yet).

I started developing this as a Cake tournament profile, wanting to counteract the issue of the bot not having the betsize or potsize information available when an opponent pushes. But it has mostly been tested in 6-max cash games and 1-table SNGs there. It has done well, with the current version providing a positive overall return in my testing across all game types (including DONs) except for MTTs, which I have not had good results at yet. It seems to do well in cash games as high as .05/.10 NL however and makes the money quite often in regular 1-table SNGs. It has not been tested in full ring cash games so I would stick to 6-max tables.

While developing this profile I discovered that Cake is not such a bad place to go botting! I would be curious to see how it does at the micro-limit 6-max NL tables on iPoker. I am willing to keep developing this puppy, so feel free to post hand histories here – however please do not suggest less pushing because this is, after all, Wild Bill. Here are some of the profile features:

Tightens up with a stack of 150+. Your opponents don’t realize this! So if you start with 50 BB’s as recommended, after you triple up it then only pushes with quality - but continues to get loose calls from your opponents who have seen all the earlier wild play. I have seen Wild Bill reach stack sizes of 450+ quite often in cash games, still getting ridiculously loose calls for entire stacks from opponents who are acting on the wider small-stack pushing range.

Tighter tournament play. Many code lines include a bigblindsize > 10 stipulation which makes it less wild in tournaments.

No preflop min-raising. All preflop open-raises are either by 2 BB’s (making it 3 total) or flat-out pushes.

Flop C-betting is 70% x 75%. That is, 70% of the pot and done 75% of the time randomly. However this is the remaining 75% of the time that it does not push on the flop, which it does with most good flopped hands and draws. With very strong flopped hands it will also sometimes bet 75% of the pot as a trap.

Self-contained Preflop and Flop code. The Turn and River betting rounds are Doodle Tweaks and need the Doodle cash profile in the background (no need for tournament codes as this profile has them included).

Usersteal and Userdefend user-variables for combat situations. By identifying our own preflop late-position stealing situations, and defense situations against late-position stealers, we then play better combat post-flop. By incorporating these user-defined variables, Wild Bill will do things like:
  -Float smallish c-bets on the flop (with any hand) from preflop late-position stealers then bet the Turn or River when they check
  -Reraise all-in on the flop randomly 30% of the time (with any hand) when we ourselves are the preflop late-position stealer and our flop C-bet gets raised by a not-huge amount (except when stacksize > 150 or bigblindsize > 10)
  -Occasionally push on the flop (with any hand) from preflop late-position stealers when they make a flop C-bet on non-scary boards (except when stacksize > 150 or bigblindsize > 10)

OK all you Wild Bills let’s get you seated and get some feedback on this thread!
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2012, 10:16:24 PM »

now that sounds really fun. hitting the tablw now
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 06:28:57 AM »

I am excited to try this out, thanks for your work.  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2012, 08:22:26 AM »

Yeehaa Cowboys



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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2012, 08:41:07 AM »

I wold like to clarify, my apologies, if this is mentioned somewhere, how to load that profile correctly.

As i understand i leave doodle in bot folder as holdem.ppl and this Wild one:

1. Rename to autoprofileholdem.txt and leave to load it automaticy
2. Leave as it is WildBill.txt an load manualy
3. Other

Oh, yes,

4. What about auto top up?

Thanks!
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Amazing!
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2012, 09:36:33 AM »

The cashgame preflop code looks not as a Maniac it looks  like a "very aggressive Maniac" with much All-Ins.
I think this could work good at 6max games to steal pots and blinds!
But at FR tables with more tight players its very risky. We will see.......

 
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2012, 10:03:26 AM »

Thanks Egor, this profile have to try soon.

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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2012, 11:05:35 AM »

thx egor

will give this ago on 4max at minted,,,,or does anzone think thats a bad idea ,,then let me know

zeehaaaa

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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2012, 11:51:31 AM »

egor,,,, zour right,, this is fun  tripled two  buz  ins

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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2012, 01:10:58 PM »

Egor can you explain to me how do i run the doodle profile along with Wild Bill at the same time
its been a while since i used doodle
thanks thumbsup
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2012, 01:17:09 PM »

Its ok i got it , i had a look at the manual thumbsup
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2012, 02:07:19 PM »

leave holdem.ppl in the folder

rename wild bill to "AutoProfileHoldem.txt"

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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2012, 02:43:59 PM »

Egor, do you have a graph available of all the testing you have done on cake or others

Would love to see +450BB stack steps graphs  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2012, 03:52:30 PM »

Each to their own i guess but its not for me to play bankroll suicide.  I opened 6 x 6max tables, 50bb buy in and an hour later it was all gone with play like this. Hope it works for you guys but i will go back to my own steady profile  thumbsup

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.2.1: Hand: 6c Ac
Players = 5 have A6-2 suited
play if any calls and raise if opponents left <= 2 modified
fold if raises and no calls
hands played in session = 1
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 3, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 3
casino = RS 6 Max, game = No Limit Cash, BB = 0.04, Pot = 5 BBs, Stack = 1.96, TI = 0 BBs
In Small Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle 98", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 126, Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: Td As 2s
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
have top pair
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = RS 6 Max, game = No Limit Cash, BB = 0.04, Pot = 8 BBs, Stack = 1.84, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 2, position = first
play if no raise and bet but fold if 2 raises cold
Matching user defined condition at line 217, Action = raisemax force
clicking MAX
clicking Bet
Turn: Td As 2s 8s
Board: No Pair possible flush three of one suit, including possible straights needing two cards
have top pair
River: Td As 2s 8s Qc
Board: No Pair possible flush three of one suit, including possible straights needing two cards
have top pair
Dealer: ****wins $3.*6 with Two Pairs,
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2012, 04:08:19 PM »

So far lost a couple of buyins as expected ofcourse! but right now i am on an avarage of 400bb per table, with 50bb buyin.. nice!

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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2012, 06:05:50 PM »

Somebody asked about auto top-up. On my testing at Cake I had it set to top back up when the original buyin started getting low, somewhere around 70%. I really don't want to shortstack with it because the idea is to triple up after playing wild and then tighten up and have opponents who have you pegged as a maniac keep calling off their stack.

It takes some insight to the strategy involved in order to stick with it. You also need to be properly bankrolled. If losing your stack on the flop because you pushed with top-pair-weak-kicker bothers you, then you probably don't have the stomach for this (or maybe you just shouldn't watch it play lol). The entire idea is to get the table shaking their heads at you incredulously, and you cannot do that unless they see some wild pushes. Yes you are going to lose some stacks setting up this image. But the effort is far from playing 'bankroll suicide' if you are properly bankrolled.

Once your image is setup you will get action like nobody else can get. Doyle Brunson said in his book you have to give action to get action. It is difficult to get opponents to gamble with you (especially these days) using a tight profile. They won't call your pushes without a very strong hand. But with Wild Bill, heck they will play with him and call his pushes and have fun doing it. Some of those pushes are actually with strong hands, and on others Wild Bill gets lucky and makes two pair - so tripling up is not hard to do, as some of you have seen already. And then..... it is a beautiful thing. They keep calling your pushes, but now you are a tighter player only pushing with the goods.
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2012, 01:47:10 AM »

Nice profile its so funny to watch Smiley) crush the tables for no time Smiley)) and record for 3 hours is 450 BB deep.
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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2012, 03:22:00 AM »

...and that is 9 times the buyin, which would make up for 9 original stack losses
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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2012, 12:44:17 PM »

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.2.1: Hand: Ad Ah
Players = 3 have AA
Raise
hands played in session = 23
in timer: players = 3, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Everleaf, game = No Limit Cash, BB = 0.04, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 2.36, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 98", Action = raisepot force
Matching user defined condition at line 89, Action = raise 2 force
typing 0.12
clicking Raise
Flop: Jd Kd Qc
Board: 2 suits possible straight
have overpair
also have backdoor nut flush draw
in timer: players = 3, folds in game= 2, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = Everleaf, game = No Limit Cash, BB = 0.04, Pot = 21 BBs, Stack = 2.24, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Raise if no raises
Matching user defined condition at line 212, Action = fold force
clicking Fold
ingettore wins €0.25 from main pot.


was a bit surprised the way BILL played this hand,,, no all in move ??

whats your take on that Egor ,and was that wise to fold ,,i can see there was a possible strait but,,well,,,lol maybe im just a bit pissed off loosing with AA

fold

ps i do like this profile  it does exactly what it says on the tin
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2012, 01:21:19 PM »

Ive sent you per email a full days HH with Bill


ps if you require more ill be glad to help
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