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DoubleHelix
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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2013, 09:13:44 PM »

Something wrong here surely?

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.2.5: Hand: Ks Kd
Players = 5 have KK
Raise
hands played in session = 54
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = 888 6 Max, game = No Limit Cash, BB = 0.02, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 1.11, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v103", Action = raisepot force
clicking POT
clicking Raise
Players = 5
Flop: Jd 3c 2s
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
have overpair
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = 888 6 Max, game = No Limit Cash, BB = 0.02, Pot = 18 BBs, Stack = 1.02, TI = 4 BBs
opponents = 2, position = last
Raise if no raises
Default Profile: "Doodle v103", Action = fold force
clicking Fold
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« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2013, 09:54:05 PM »

Interesting hand. Nothing technically wrong, no. The Doodle won't play when there are large flop bets if it holds 1-pair hands. The Little Green tweak is about pushing on the flop with draws and 2-pair/set hands. However this does make me think. If the opponent has seen us do some flop-pushing this could be a play-back on their part and we probably should be willing to play the top two overpair hands, especially on garbage boards like this

Let me think about this a bit.

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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2013, 11:18:52 PM »

Yes it should do really.  The thing is the flop bet which made the Bot fold wasn't that large, it was only 1/3 of the pot.

Just to clarify, Bot has KK and raises pre flop with 9c, two players call.  The very benign flop comes down, there is now 28c in the pot.  One player raises with 9c, Bot folds.  That definitely seems wrong.  I'm sure I've seen Little Green play lesser pairs more aggressively than this.  I've been using Little Green for several weeks now and I haven't had cause to question a single hand until now.  Are you sure this isn't a bug?
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« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2013, 11:47:12 PM »

This is the Little Green piece of code concerned. 

when haveoverpair and (hand = AA or hand = KK or hand = QQ) and not (paironboard or flushpossible or threecardstraightonboard or board = KJT or board = KQT or board = AQT or board = QT9 or board = AQJ or board = QJ9 or board = AKJ or board = KJ9 or board = KQ9 or board = Q98 or raises > 1 or amounttocall > 15) raisemax force

Would it not be best for the Little Green profile to decide what to do depending on the size of the opponents raises?  Rather than just folding if there has been more than 1 raise. 

The other piece of code similar to this concerning two pairs is even more questionable.  Unless I'm wrong it will fold in exactly the same way even though the Bot could be holding two pair.

when havetwopair and not (paironboard or flushpossible or threecardstraightonboard or board = KJT or board = KQT or board = AQT or board = QT9 or board = AQJ or board = QJ9 or board = AKJ or board = KJ9 or board = KQ9 or board = Q98 or raises > 1 or amounttocall > 15) raisemax force
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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2013, 12:02:02 AM »

The raise count was 0 in the hand you posted. Make sure you are not confusing 'raises' with 'bets'. They are two entirely different actions. In the hand you posted an opponent bet the flop, but there were no raises.

Because of the codeline you posted, I am now concerned that you even had the Little Green profile loaded. The bot should have raised all-in based on that codeline, as the amounttocall was certainly less than 15.

I don't think this is a profile issue. Are you certain it is loading into the bot correctly?
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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2013, 12:43:51 AM »

Yes of course, that's right.  I thought something must be amiss.  That situation would have come up before now and I would have noticed it.  Sorry for being an idiot.
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2013, 04:25:53 PM »

Sorry, I don't wish to labour over this but just thinking about what you said in your first response.  For those two pieces of code would it not be best to remove the "raises > 1"?

My thinking is if the Bot has top overpair or two pair as long the amount to call was no bigger than 15 it would not want to fold no matter how many raises there have been.  It seems vulnerable here to folding to two small raises from the other players.   
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2013, 06:26:39 PM »

No, I don't want to play any 1 pair hands if there have been 2+ raises on the flop. That means there has been a bet and two subsequent raises on the flop and in No Limit poker that means 1-pair hands are beaten. The cat is out of the bag at that point.
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« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2013, 07:02:13 AM »

If you want - but then we are no longer talking about this profile.

FYI I will be cleaning up this thread and deleting the last few posts since they have not much to do with this profile, and are more Help board topics.

You can make the bot play any way you want.
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« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2014, 01:27:58 PM »

anyone got the latest txt for little green
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« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2014, 05:19:43 PM »

anyone got the latest txt for little green

try page 1?  thumbsup
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« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2014, 05:41:31 PM »

It's always at www.bonusbots.com/littlegreen.txt
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« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2014, 01:02:42 PM »

Just using it to play 5 hour sessions - 2 table 888 .. 2 cent 4 cent

it seems to be averaging about a $15 loss per time.

Buy in for Table Max of $4 with auto re-load.

Anyway better wait for 30 days just to be sure whether it is worth while playing with this profile or not.

If it doesn't show a profit by then - I am done with this Bot for good.
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« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2014, 06:38:54 PM »

This profile has done pretty good for me on 6-max tables up to .10/.25, buying in for the table max.

But I'm not really interested in hearing whining from someone who is running bad. If you have any hands you think weren't played well, feel free to post them here from the bot-log (as long as you understand the Little Green theory -- this is from Phil Gordon's book, we push with strong hands and draws on the flop).

On the other hand if you are losing every single session no matter what profile you use, you probably should start a Help board topic and post a few hands from the bot-log so I can see if there are any obvious technical problems, such as not reading your stack size or the big blind size correctly.
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« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2014, 11:11:32 PM »

thanks for the offer .. I'm not touching it for 30 days and see what the profit or loss is - with a $500 cap.

Given my cumulative losses to date -- I'm about ready to throw in the towel though.

I don't think it plays bad - but if I sit and watch - it loses to sets pretty much most of the time -- as no-one seems to call with anything lower than that... when it moves all - in.

so wins 18 cents wins 18 cents loses $4    ... even if it manages to draw out and hit the flush or straight and gets to $8 - then it will lose that in the same manner... 20 minutes later.

Ok cheers for now


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« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2014, 11:21:22 PM »

And I just want to say - I love Poker and the idea of botting and grinding out some money each month... and I do get enjoyment from the game ..

BUT you just have to believe that it is worth it in the long run ... and that is what I am struggling with at the moment.
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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2014, 01:02:12 AM »

It loses to the set hunter?

That makes an old man very happy  rockout
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« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2015, 05:07:46 PM »

Hi Egor. I am also noticing somewhat of a problem with the Little Green. I had pocket TT, in a 6 handed room and it folded before anyone even raised. Why would that be?
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« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2015, 07:02:38 PM »

This profile would certainly never do that. I suspect a technical issue or a misread. Do you still have the hand saved in the bot's session log?
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« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2016, 01:34:19 AM »

I'm going to make one small first line addition to this. If nothing else it will keep them guessing if it does what I hope it does.  This is my first tweak.

When random <= 50

Hopefully I'm only 1/2 crazy now
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