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« on: November 02, 2010, 09:26:10 PM »

Versions 11

Posted: Aug 11, 2019

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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2011, 04:16:00 PM »

How do i load a .txt profile over a .ppl?
Do I just save this as autoprofileomahahi.txt  and still keep the default ppl profile omahahi.ppl?
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2011, 06:04:05 PM »

Please read the section near the beginning of the Omaha Bot User Manual; the page about creating, saving, and loading profiles.
 
To use a complete text profile from the forum (such as this one):

1. Copy the code - just the code, in grey, but all of it
2. Paste into a blank Notepad (Start > All Programs > Accessories > Notepad)
3. Save As 'whatever' into your bot folder
4. Load by going to OmHi > Read Profile and typing in 'whatever.txt'
 
Alternatves to step 4:  

A) Save As 'AutoProfileOmahaHi' and it will load automatically as the default profile every time you open a bot window
 
B) Save As 'OmahaHi_profile' and it will be the default name of the profile showing in the Read Profile window, saving any typing
 
Do NOT add a .txt extension to the profile name when saving it from Notepad.
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 07:44:02 PM »

i did read that section of the manual, the only thing i wasn't so sure about was how to get it to read both the ppl and txt profile. I presume it needs to read both as this is only a partial profile no? any advice is much appreciated  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2011, 08:01:16 PM »

How do i load a .txt profile over a .ppl?
Do I just save this as autoprofileomahahi.txt  and still keep the default ppl profile omahahi.ppl?

Yes, both in same folder as bot and license.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2011, 11:43:03 PM »

you can load them both manually if they are not named to auto-load, one .ppl profile and one .txt profile can be loaded at any given time, be that a manual or an auto-load
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2011, 06:35:24 PM »

Is this profile mainly for 6 max or 9/10 max tables?

What kinda bankroll would you advice to start with at PLO2. I've read ~50 should be enough, but even that seems very high for an entry level like PLO2. I guess players are very very very bad at omaha at PLO2.

What is your experience with it?
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2011, 06:40:09 PM »

Those stakes should be easy to beat. This profile should play decent at either 6-max or full ring, but of course the rake is more of a problem in 6-max.

The main problem with Omaha-Hi is that bad players are technically not playing all that much worse than good players when they make bad calls, being as no hand is really all that much of an underdog to any other like in Holdem. Therefore it's a real grind and the rake becomes a problem.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2011, 02:23:19 PM »

Shanky Technologies Omaha Hi Version 5.9.6: Hand: 7s 8c Kd 8d
Players = 5 hands played in session =
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 2, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 3, bets = 0, folds = 2
casino = xxx 6 Max, game = Pot Limit Cash, BB = 0.04, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 4.06, TI = 0 BBs
In Big Blind
Default Profile: "Om Hi 4.5", Action = call
clicking Check
Flop: 2h 8h 9d
Board: 2 suits no possible straight

have 2nd top set

in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 2, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = xxx 6 Max, game = Pot Limit Cash, BB = 0.04, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 4.06, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 3, position = middle
Default Profile: "Om Hi 4.5", Action = betpot
clicking POT
clicking Bet
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 3, raises = 1, checks = 1, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = RS 6 Max, game = Pot Limit Cash, BB = 0.04, Pot = 136 BBs, Stack = 3.90, TI = 5 BBs
Default Profile: "Om Hi 4.5", Action = call
changing action to Fold because of Raise >= 25 big blinds
clicking Fold
Turn: 2h 8h 9d 4d
Board: Two low cards, no possible straight, no possible flush

have any set

also have 2nd nut flush draw

River: 2h 8h 9d 4d Ks
Board: No possible flush, no possible straight

have any set

Dealer: villan wins $1.31 with Two

I find this a bit too tight to be played on 6 max, dont you think so ?
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2011, 04:59:30 PM »

Those stakes should be easy to beat. This profile should play decent at either 6-max or full ring, but of course the rake is more of a problem in 6-max.

The main problem with Omaha-Hi is that bad players are technically not playing all that much worse than good players when they make bad calls, being as no hand is really all that much of an underdog to any other like in Holdem. Therefore it's a real grind and the rake becomes a problem.

The limits are not beatable due to the rake. You will have a hard time beating the 10bb/100 in rake, never ever possbile as a bot
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2011, 05:13:28 PM »

Not a problem if a player have huge RB of 50 to 80%.

Still leaks like that are easy to repair and brings quite a bit to winrate. But it does add a bit to variance Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2011, 05:36:00 PM »

Calling that large of a raise without the nuts and without even a draw to the nuts, in my opinion, is not going to improve your EV. You will be surprised how often you will be looking at top set, or a wrap + nut flush draw.

However I can see your point - I am not going to change this but if you want to a simple 1-liner at the top of the flop should do the trick. You may as well reraise all-in.
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2011, 09:03:21 PM »

Against a solid player, our raise-shove would be an EV-, I agree.

But vs a fish or a donk, its +EV.

And since bot does not have its own database nor stats to "see" who the bad players one, I believe the only way is to check their stack size, there will never never never be a solid player with less than a full buyin at the table, so everybody that buyin for less are fish/donks or a pro shortstacker, which are pretty rare at the omaha tables.
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2011, 10:08:30 PM »

right, agreed, so adjust it how you need it

personally I don't play below .05/.10 blinds

and anyway, I think making that call/reraise is not going to increase results in any stakes by more than a smidgeon, so I would rather play it safe
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2011, 11:45:18 PM »

You play PLO10 and higher with exactly this profile?

I would adjust it if i'd know how Smiley

Oh and yes...omaha profile is just as .ppl so cant edit it.
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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2011, 12:33:03 AM »

just make a text profile and load it

flop
when not (straightpossible or flushpossible or paironboard) and opponents = 1 and have2ndtopset and have2ndnutflushdraw raisepot force
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2011, 01:13:42 AM »

thx, will give it a try.

pls comment this hand, I dont understand river call:


Shanky Technologies Omaha Hi Version 5.9.6: Hand: 2s 4s 8d Qd
Players = 5 have 248Q
Fold
hands played in session = 99
in timer: players = 3, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = xxx 6 Max, game = Pot Limit Cash, BB = 0.04, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 4.16, TI = 0 BBs
In Big Blind
Default Profile: "Om Hi 4.5", Action = fold
clicking Check
Flop: 6s 2d Td
Board: 2 suits no possible straight

have 3rd nut flush draw

in timer: players = 3, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = xxx 6 Max, game = Pot Limit Cash, BB = 0.04, Pot = 5 BBs, Stack = 4.12, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 2, position = middle
Default Profile: "Om Hi 4.5", Action = call
clicking Call
Turn: 6s 2d Td 6d
Board: Pair, possible flush. possible straight or not

in timer: players = 3, folds in game= 2, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = xxx 6 Max, game = Pot Limit Cash, BB = 0.04, Pot = 13 BBs, Stack = 4.04, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Default Profile: "Om Hi 4.5", Action = call
clicking Call
River: 6s 2d Td 6d 4c
Board: Pair, possible flush, straight possible or not

have 3rd best flush

in timer: players = 3, folds in game= 2, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = xxx 6 Max, game = Pot Limit Cash, BB = 0.04, Pot = 36 BBs, Stack = 4.04, TI = 9 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Default Profile: "Om Hi 4.5", Action = call
clicking Call
Dealer: villan wins $1.98 with Four of a

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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2011, 02:46:34 AM »

Please, one at a time.

On the first hand we had the third best flush against one opponent who made a smallish bet on the river; I like that call.

On the second hand you can see yourself that the bot bet 60% of the pot on the Turn, a good bet. If that is not what actually happened it is not a profile issue and therefore I will not discuss it here.

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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2011, 09:37:04 AM »

Ok, I have removed second hand.

How can you see there was a smallish bet on the river? Still... only 3rd flush with pair on board vs opponent that donk bets on each street after just limping preflop, cant see us win here almost never, unless he bluffs, but cant see him do that here...if there would be no pair on the board, I agree w calling.

And another thing, Egor, I believe that bot almost always bet the pot with nuts on the river. I find this a bit too much of a bet since it will be called only when some coolers happen, like FH vs FH, or maybe K high vs A high flush, or, FH vs quads, which is very rare. Dont you think it would be better that we bet a value sized bet here, so we try to wide our opponents calling range?
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2011, 04:50:59 PM »

In the hand that was posted the betsize was small for every bet the opponent made. If you are going to let yourself get pushed off every hand for small bets you will simply get run over. I like the calls.

You got an issue with river bet-sizes please post bot-log examples.

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