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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2011, 12:56:02 AM »

I think your looking at the sngs which for some reason cant be filtered out of the mtt lobby, not many of the ub mtts are turbo.
Its not just for ub, its for all shanky sites the graph was just run at ub because the other sites dont give summaries for a graph.

Its impossible to filter turbos in the graph as nothing is ever recorded as a turbo, however i run it in turbos (and they are in the graph) and like it in them but dont forget your roi and varience will be a lot higher in turbos as they reduce a good players edge significantly.

So id say to take normals as preferance but dont fear putting it in turbos certainly as opposed to nothing.

Im happy to run it in everything that has chips not $ as a stack lol One of the testers even put it in a step 8 and it came out with a step 9 ticket (thats not in the graph for the record)Grin
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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2011, 01:13:39 AM »

Other profiles I've used seem to play too tight and get blinded off before going all in and getting busted by big stacks.

I hear you on this bro. We all need a profile that kicks ass right on thru.

Are there any latest results from buyers?

I even know how to write the PPL, but I am soooo tempted to just go ahead and lay out the bucks for this one.


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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2011, 02:24:29 AM »

Your gonna have a long wait for buyers to run graphs big enough to give a reflection, its always gonna give incorrect reflection without a good sample size either too good or too bad depending on how they are running at the time.
So id actually prefer it if they didnt post results until thier graphs have a reasonable size of mtts played (few hundred), though i encourage them to talk about what they do know for you ie do they like the play or not.

Even when they have big enough graphs for a fair reflection, dont expect them to be wanting to share thier info if thier graphs are good, and i always keep customers graphs and results private if tey request it so.

You might never get a sniff out of them thumbsup
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2011, 03:16:40 AM »

Small sample size for the asking price IMHO
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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2011, 04:25:59 AM »

Small sample size for the asking price IMHO

Interesting you think that, considering you sell a profile with the oldest graphs on the site most of them (i wouldnt be surprised if all) from a poker site that cant be played anymore.
Id take you a bit more seriously if not for that.
Nice whole new thread you put up to attack the in the money rate aswell without pointing (though its obvious), shame you missed a bounty knockout counts as itm lol Grin

Do people who dont sell a mp mtt profile (and hence have no motive to smear) think the graph should reasonably be bigger than almost 1k tournaments? If you agree pm me you think so, if theres quite a few il do something about it.

Il also take some side action on bullets still having the same old flintstone graphs in his thread when im done for the record, if anyone likes props for the giggles.
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« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2011, 04:33:27 AM »

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the profile plays excellent poker, I'm not questioning that.  My comment also had nothing to do with my MTT profile sales thread.  Yes, the graphs are old, and no, I don't get any sales, haven't had one in months.

Also my thread on MTT variance does not take bounties into consideration, you are correct.

I actually would consider being a buyer if the sample size was much larger, more on the order of 3-4k tournies played (given the asking price anyway).
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« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2011, 05:00:39 AM »

As i said i will take it under advisement on the pms, i think the graph is more than conclusive. More is always better but its way in advance of whats neccessary imo.
Not to mention i dont think iv ever seen a graph put up at first sale with anything like that $ invested here.

Of course we would all like a million tourney graph but you have to draw the line somewhere, we ran what we felt was enough then almost doubled it and the roi was pretty consistant across that second half.

So we will just have to disagree and see what the pms bring, i am open to views if they say more, il do more but i expect the figures to stay roughly the same and the extras to be largely valueless. Undecided
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« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2011, 05:25:41 AM »

Interesting you think that, considering you sell a profile with the oldest graphs on the site most of them (i wouldnt be surprised if all) from a poker site that cant be played anymore.
Id take you a bit more seriously if not for that.
Nice whole new thread you put up to attack the in the money rate aswell without pointing (though its obvious), shame you missed a bounty knockout counts as itm lol Grin

Do people who dont sell a mp mtt profile (and hence have no motive to smear) think the graph should reasonably be bigger than almost 1k tournaments? If you agree pm me you think so, if theres quite a few il do something about it.

Il also take some side action on bullets still having the same old flintstone graphs in his thread when im done for the record, if anyone likes props for the giggles.


There really was no need to take cheap shots @ Bullets IMO (He just brought up his point of view),

But as far as the graph grows I think it is more than a fair sample size.. Mostly everyone knows the risks of Tournament Play and the variance so the sample size is pretty good..
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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2011, 03:11:00 AM »

I'm sure it's winner profile. But I would expect more profit after more than 800 largefield(400+) MTT. Can I ask the $/hour rate? Because this is the main pont. 50% ROI could be very valueless when the average MTT time is high.
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« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2011, 04:37:53 AM »

More profit? gulps  Shocked

It reports $1.82 per table per hour thumbsup
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« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2011, 10:10:10 PM »

Why would anyone need a sample size of more than a few months of tourneys?
Assuming 10 tourneys are played per day in 3 months you should know whether or not you are decent at poker or should quit.

Anything capable of winning multiple tournaments is good. Yes tournament variance is high but the graph is large enough to show the variance involved.
Who cares about ITM, tournaments aren't supposed to be played to min-cash and get ITM. This plays to win like everyone should if you are playing to min-cash you need a bigger bankroll so you're not playing like a p#ssy.
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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2011, 06:06:33 PM »

just a couple results and and a funny story popcorn

With just moderate usage. i have had several nice finishes across the 3 best sites. Bodog seems to be cashing the best for me atm.

The other night after a 5th place finish with the event horizon profile, I figured I would play some cash game and I stupidly forgot to close the bot out and ended up putting the event horizion on two NL25 cash game tables.
.....First hand doubled my stack with AK.....now, I thought it was playing more aggressive than usual but whtever i was  sleep tired. Little bit later I noticed 2 pair so im watching, and I know that I have my cash game profile coded to check behind on that paticular board texture, when all of a sudden my bot is raising and reraising. Sure enough I stacked up AGAIN. That is a spot where normally i would have gotten small value. I checked the line numbers and thats when I figured out I was crushing a cash game with a MTT profile.....lol at me Grin * disclaimer - kids, don't try this at home. I am a professional.
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« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2011, 02:34:35 PM »

Would this profile work on cake ? Cake has changed the structure of alot of their tourns making almost all of them deepstack starting with 5000 chips and most tourns have small fields , less than 90 people.  Would this profile play well in these types or tournaments too?
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« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2011, 05:25:39 PM »

We dont play on cake so no attempt has been made to sidestep the cake bug (if its possible which i doubt), not many of the graph are 5k chippers as that wasnt the target so i have to consider those tourney type largely untested really even tho i played a couple sorry.



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« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2011, 06:50:05 AM »

All I have to say is that this profile is simply incredible. It's frickin' awesome to watch play with how aggressive it is. I almost feel sorry for the other players who can't tell what's real and what's just a straight up bluff. I have already won a few small tournaments and I have no doubt that I'll probably win quite a bit more in the future. I am SO glad I bought this.
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« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2011, 12:06:38 AM »

can this work on rebuys/deepstacks?
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« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2011, 12:38:43 AM »

can this work on rebuys/deepstacks?

Deepstacks are fine (3k chips), if your talking about superstacks (above 3k) iv answered it in my last post above thumbsup

All I have to say is that this profile is simply incredible. It's frickin' awesome to watch play with how aggressive it is. I almost feel sorry for the other players who can't tell what's real and what's just a straight up bluff. I have already won a few small tournaments and I have no doubt that I'll probably win quite a bit more in the future. I am SO glad I bought this.

Thx for feedback glad you like it Grin
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« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2011, 01:12:29 PM »

will it handle the rebuy tournaments im not getting a good start but small sample
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« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2011, 02:46:07 PM »

graph updated. 

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« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2011, 02:58:25 PM »

will it handle the rebuy tournaments im not getting a good start but small sample

Im not sure if that a question or if your trying to answer somebody elses question about rebuys.

If its a question:
If you must play rebuys make sure you play them properly, double buy at start - auto rebuy and auto double rebuy ticked and get double add on.

After all that dont forget that this counts as a deep stack mtt (7k min at break), so im not interested in reports of them here (good or bad) you should do fine but its not made to play these, though as you can see from the stats some were played to make sure theres no very rough play in them in case some people want them.

Bottom line if you want to reproduce our graph stick to 1500-3000 starters and this doesnt include you have 1500 and everybody else starting with 7k like some people think is value in a rebuy rofl.
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