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« on: January 27, 2023, 05:15:51 PM »

Is there a way to detect backdoor straight draw on flop? This will be particularly valuable for making c-bet and double barrel on turn w/ some of the good backdoor straight draw combos.

For example - Hand 9d Td; Flop 4c 8d 2h - this gives the hand backdoor straight draw (a turn on 6, 7, J, Q, will make oesd or gutshot nut straight draw) + backdoor flush draw. This will be a great spot for c-bet on flop and a high possibility of double barrel on turn.
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2023, 06:09:14 PM »

You have to do it "the long way" I think.
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2023, 03:56:47 PM »

I gave a try with the below codes, please let me know what you think. It identifies the most valuable bdsd combos (with most # of cards on turn can become oesd or gutshot sd):

When not (StraightPossible or HaveInsideStraightDraw) and board = 3 and (Hand = 45 or Hand = 24) User_Flop_BDSD
When not (StraightPossible or HaveInsideStraightDraw) and board = 4 and (Hand = 56 or Hand = 23 or Hand = 35) User_Flop_BDSD
When not (StraightPossible or HaveInsideStraightDraw) and board = 5 and (Hand = 67 or Hand = 34 or Hand = 46) User_Flop_BDSD
When not (StraightPossible or HaveInsideStraightDraw) and board = 6 and (Hand = 78 or Hand = 45 or Hand = 57) User_Flop_BDSD
When not (StraightPossible or HaveInsideStraightDraw) and board = 7 and (Hand = 89 or Hand = 56 or Hand = 68) User_Flop_BDSD
When not (StraightPossible or HaveInsideStraightDraw) and board = 8 and (Hand = T9 or Hand = 67 or Hand = 79) User_Flop_BDSD
When not (StraightPossible or HaveInsideStraightDraw) and board = 9 and (Hand = JT or Hand = 78 or Hand = T8) User_Flop_BDSD
When not (StraightPossible or HaveInsideStraightDraw) and board = T and (Hand = QJ or Hand = 89 or Hand = J9)User_Flop_BDSD
When not (StraightPossible or HaveInsideStraightDraw) and board = J and (Hand = KQ or Hand = 9T or Hand = QT) User_Flop_BDSD
When not (StraightPossible or HaveInsideStraightDraw) and board = Q and (Hand = JT or Hand = KJ) User_Flop_BDSD

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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2023, 06:11:08 PM »

Clever  thumbsup but I would also add not (havestraightdraw)
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2023, 06:56:40 PM »

Thanks Egor. Wouldn't HaveStraightDraw already be covered by HaveInsideStraightDraw?
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2023, 06:59:43 PM »

You are correct of course -- this was my first thing I did before any caffeine today.  explosion
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2023, 03:12:32 AM »

I need my daily morning caffeine (multiple of them) to function too, cheers!  beer
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