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Title: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 02, 2010, 08:08:36 PM
Turn any decent cash game profile into a good strong MTT profile with this kit.

1. Set Never Bet Turn or River with Hand Below to: 2nd Top Pair + Overcard (this is a setting on the bot's option menu).

2. Turn off Bathroom Breaks (on the bot's option menu, set to 999 minute interval)

3. Turn Pot-sized preflop raises to 99+ (also a setting on the option menu)

4. Turn off the minimum bet override (also a setting on the option menu, set to play by default)

5. Save these option setting adjustments by using the write profile function on the bot, as whatever you want to name it.

6. Copy the code below on to a blank notepad file. Paste each section at the top of the corresponding betting round code in your PPL.

It is critical that each betting round code goes at the top of your profile's PPL code for each betting round. If you don't do that right it will only screw the profile up. For example copy the Flop section and paste it above all your code for the flop (under the word flop in your PPL).


Last Updated: July 18, 2017

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custom
//July 18 MTT Kit
preflop

When bigblindsize >= 1000 and (raises = 1 or botslastaction = raise) and stacksize < 30 and (hand = QQ or hand = JJ) raisemax force

When stacksize > 100 and raises >= 1 and betsize > 12 and not (hand = AA or hand = KK or hand = QQ or hand = AK or opponentisallin or opponentsattable <= 3) fold force

When opponentsattable <= 4 and opponents = 1 and opponentisallin and (hand = A or pairinhand) and betsize < 34% stacksize call force

When opponentsattable <= 4 and stacksize < 28 and (hand = AK or hand = KK or hand = AA or hand = QQ) and raises <= 1 raisemax force

When opponentsattable <= 3 and stacksize < 21 and (hand = AQ or hand = AJ suited or hand = JJ or hand = TT or hand = 99) and raises <= 1 raisemax force

When OpponentsAtTable = 1 and hand = A and stacksize < 15 raisemax force

When OpponentsAtTable = 1  and bets = 0 and raises = 0 and (hand = A suited or pairinhand or hand = AK or hand = AQ or hand = AJ or hand = KQ or hand = QJ suited or hand = JT suited or hand = T9 suited or hand = 98 suited or hand = 87 suited) RaiseMax force

When OpponentsAtTable = 1  and (hand = A suited or pairinhand or hand = AK or hand = AQ or hand = AJ or hand = KQ or hand = QJ suited or hand = JT suited) RaiseMax force

When in bigblind and opponents = 1 and opponentisallin and betsize < 10% stacksize and (pairinhand or hand = A or hand = K or hand = Q or hand = J) call force

When StackSize <= 9 and (hand = A suited or hand = AK or hand = AQ or hand = KQ or hand = QJ suited or hand = JT suited or pairinhand) raisemax force

When stacksize < 7 and (hand = A or hand = K suited or hand = QT suited or hand = T9 suited or hand = 98 suited or hand = 87 suited or hand = 76 suited) raisemax force

When Stacksize < 5 and botslastaction = raise raisemax force

When Stacksize < 5 and raises = 0 and not (hand = 23 or hand = 24 or hand = 25 or hand = 26 or hand = 27 or hand = 29 or hand = 2T or hand = 37 or hand = 38 or hand = 39 or hand = 3T or hand = 49 or hand = 4T) raisemax force

When stacksize <= 2 raisemax force

When opponentsattable = 1 and stacksize < 7 and calls = 0 and raises = 0 raisemax force

When opponentsattable = 1 and stacksize < 10 and calls = 0 and raises = 0 and not (hand = 23 or hand = 24 or hand = 25 or hand = 26 or hand = 27 or hand = 29 or hand = 2T or hand = 37 or hand = 38 or hand = 39 or hand = 3T or hand = 49 or hand = 4T) raisemax force

When (hand = AA or hand = KK) and (raises >= 1 or calls >= 4) raisemax force

When hand = AK suited and raises >= 1 and betsize > 20% stacksize raisemax force

When BetSize > 20% stacksize and stacksize > 50 and not (hand = AA or hand = KK or hand = QQ or hand = JJ or hand = AK or hand = AQ suited or amounttocall < 5) fold force

When opponents = 1 and opponentisallin and betsize < 17% stacksize and (pairinhand or hand = A or hand = KQ suited) call force

When hand = AK and raises = 1 and betsize > 20% stacksize raisemax force

When opponents = 1 and opponentisallin and botslastaction = raise and betsize < 18% stacksize call force

When opponents = 1 and opponentisallin and betsize < 12% stacksize and (pairinhand or hand = A or hand = K or hand = Q suited or hand = JT or hand = J9 or hand = J8 or hand = J7 or hand = T9 or hand = T8 or hand = T7 or hand = 98 or hand = 97 or hand = 96 suited or hand = 87 or hand = 86 suited or hand = 85 suited or hand = 76 or hand = 65 suited) call force

When opponents = 1 and opponentisallin and betsize < 20% stacksize and botslastaction = raise call force

When stacksize < 20 and not (hand = AK or hand = AQ or hand = AJ or hand = AT or hand = A9 or hand = A suited or pairinhand or hand = KQ or hand = KJ suited or hand = QJ suited or hand = JT suited or hand = T9 suited) and not (in smallblind and calls >= 1 and raises = 0) fold force

When (hand = 66 or hand = 55) and (stacksize = 10 or stacksize = 11) raisemax force

When (hand = 22 or hand = 33 or hand = 44 or hand = 55 or hand = 66) and stacksize > 9 and stacksize < 20 and not (totalinvested > 75% stacksize) fold force

When totalinvested > 75% stacksize and pairinhand raisemax force

When in smallblind and stacksize < 40 and not (pairinhand or hand = AK or hand = AQ or hand = AJ or hand = AT or hand = A9 or hand = A8 or hand = A7 or hand = A suited or hand = KQ or hand = KJ or hand = KT or hand = K9 or hand = K8 or hand = K7 or hand = QJ or hand = QT or hand = Q9 or hand = Q8 or hand = Q7 or hand = JT or hand = J9 or hand = J8 or hand = J7 or hand = T9 or hand = T8 or hand = T7 or hand = 98 or hand = 97 or hand = 87 or hand = 86 or hand = 76 or hand = 75 or hand = 65 or hand = 54) fold force







flop

When totalinvested > 70% stacksize and havetoppair and havebestkicker and board = A and not (board = K or board = Q or board = J or flushpossible or morethanonestraightpossibleonflop) and (botslastaction = raise or botslastaction = bet) and raises = 1 and opponents = 1 raisemax force

When totalinvested > 70% stacksize and havetoppair and havebestkicker and board = K and not (board = A or board = Q or board = J or flushpossible or morethanonestraightpossibleonflop) and (botslastaction = raise or botslastaction = bet) and raises = 1 and opponents = 1 raisemax force

When totalinvested > 70% stacksize and havetoppair and havebestkicker and board = Q and not (board = K or board = A or board = J or flushpossible or morethanonestraightpossibleonflop) and (botslastaction = raise or botslastaction = bet) and raises = 1 and opponents = 1 raisemax force

When totalinvested > 145% stacksize and (hand =AK or hand = AQ) raisemax force

When totalinvested > 145% stacksize and hand = A and overcards = 2 raisemax force

When (haveunderpair or havebottompair) and not (havetwopair or haveset or havetrips or havefullhouse or havequads or havestraight or haveinsidestraightdraw or haveflush or haveflushdraw or stacksize < 6) and not (opponents = 1 and opponentisallin and stacksize > 30 and amounttocall < 6) and bigblindsize >= 150 fold force

When opponents = 1 and opponentisallin and (bets = 1 or raises = 1) and betsize < 21% stacksize and botslastaction = bet and (have2ndtoppair or have2ndoverpair or havetoppair or haveoverpair or haveset or havetrips or havenutflushdraw or havestraight) call force

When opponents = 1 and opponentisallin and (bets = 1 or raises = 1) and betsize < 17% stacksize and (havepair or havetrips or havestraightdraw or haveflushdraw) call force

When opponents = 1 and opponentisallin and (bets = 1 or raises = 1) and betsize < 9% stacksize and (haveinsidestraightdraw or hand = AK or overcards = 2) call force

When StackSize < 6 and (havepair or havetrips or havestraightdraw or haveflushdraw or hand = AK) Raisemax force

When Stacksize < 11 and raisesbeforeflop and (havetoppair or haveoverpair or havetwopair or havetrips or havestraight or haveflush) raisemax force

When Stacksize < 8 and (havetoppair or haveoverpair or havetwopair or havetrips or havestraight or haveflush) raisemax force

When stacksize < 15 and not (have2ndtoppair or have2ndoverpair or havetoppair or haveoverpair or havetwopair or haveset or havetrips or havefullhouse or havequads or havestraight or haveflush or havestraightdraw or haveflushdraw or hand = AK or totalinvested > 115% stacksize or amounttocall <= 1) fold force

When potsize > 5 and stacksize < 22 and not (have2ndtoppair or have2ndoverpair or havetoppair or haveoverpair or havetwopair or haveset or havetrips or havefullhouse or havequads or havestraight or haveflush or havestraightdraw or haveflushdraw or hand = AK or totalinvested > 115% stacksize) fold force

When stacksize < 8 and not (havetoppair or haveoverpair or have2ndoverpair or havetwopair or haveset or havetrips or havefullhouse or havequads or havestraight or haveflush or havestraightdraw or haveflushdraw or totalinvested > 115% stacksize) fold force

When stacksize > 75 and betsize > 17% stacksize and paironboard and not (havefullhouse or havetrips or hand = AA or amounttocall < 18% potsize) fold force
When stacksize > 75 and betsize > 17% stacksize and (not paironboard) and flushpossible and not (haveflush or haveset or havestraight or havetwopair or havenutflushdraw or amounttocall < 18% potsize) fold force
When stacksize > 75 and betsize > 23% stacksize and (not paironboard) and (not flushpossible) and straightpossible and not (havestraight or haveset or havetwopair or haveoverpair or amounttocall < 18% potsize) fold force
When stacksize > 75 and betsize > 23% stacksize and (not paironboard) and (not flushpossible) and (not straightpossible) and not (haveset or havetwopair or haveoverpair or havenutflushdraw or amounttocall < 18% potsize) fold force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and paironboard and (havetrips or havefullhouse) raisemax force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and paironboard and not (board = KK or board = QQ or board = JJ or board = TT or board = 99) and (havetrips or havefullhouse or hand = AA or hand = KK) raisemax force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and flushpossible and (haveflush or haveset or havestraight or havetoptwopair) raisemax force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and flushpossible and (not straightpossible) and (haveflush or haveset or havestraight or havetwopair) raisemax force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and not (straightpossible or flushpossible or paironboard) and (haveset or havetwopair) raisemax force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and raises = 0 and calls = 0 and not (straightpossible or flushpossible or paironboard) and haveoverpair and (hand = AA or hand = KK or hand = QQ) raisemax force

when (bets = 1 or raises >= 1) and betsize > 15% stacksize and stacksize > 10 and not (opponents = 1 and opponentisallin) and not (havetoppair or haveoverpair or havetwopair or haveset or havetrips or havefullhouse or havequads or havestraight or haveflush or havenutflushdraw) and not (overcards = 2 and havenutstraightdraw and suitsonboard >= 2) and not (totalinvested > 115% stacksize) and not (havepair and haveflushdraw and suitsonboard = 2) fold force

when opponents <= 2 and stacksize <= 20 and potsize >= 3 and havetoppair and (havebestkicker or have2ndbestkicker or have3rdbestkicker) and not (paironboard or flushpossible or morethanonestraightpossibleonflop) raisemax force

When opponents = 1  and OpponentIsAllIn and (bets = 1 or raises = 1)  and AmountToCall < 40% StackSize  and HaveTopPair and (havebestkicker or Have2ndBestKicker)  and not ( board = K K  or board = Q Q  or board = J J  or board = T T ) call force

when haveoverpair and opponents <= 2 and (not paironboard) and stacksize < 25 raisemax force

when haveoverpair and opponents <= 2 and paironboard and not (board = KK or board = QQ or board = JJ or board = TT or board = 99) and stacksize < 25 raisemax force

When (havetoppair or have2ndoverpair or have2ndtoppair) and not (havebestkicker or have2ndbestkicker or have3rdbestkicker or havetwopair or havetrips or haveset or havequads or havefullhouse or havestraightdraw or haveflushdraw or botislastraiser or opponentisallin or totalinvested > 90% stacksize) and stacksize > 15 and (raises >= 1 or betsize > 15% stacksize) fold force

When (have2ndtoppair or have2ndoverpair) and board = A and not (havetwopair or havetrips or haveset or havequads or havefullhouse or havestraightdraw or haveflushdraw or totalinvested > 90% stacksize) and stacksize > 15 and (raises >= 1 or betsize > 15% stacksize or opponents >= 2) fold force

When stacksize < 22 and potsize > 3 and not (haveoverpair or havetoppair or have2ndoverpair or have2ndtoppair or haveset or havetrips or havefullhouse or havequads or havestraight or haveflush or haveflushdraw or havestraightdraw) fold force

When amounttocall > 30% stacksize and not (havepair or havestraight or haveflush) and not (havestraightdraw and haveflushdraw) and not (hand = AK) and not (haveflushdraw and overcards = 2) and not (haveinsidestraightdraw and overcards = 2) fold force






turn


When opponents = 1 and opponentisallin and (bets = 1 or raises = 1) and betsize < 17% stacksize and not (onecardflushpossible or onecardstraightpossible) and (havetoppair or haveoverpair or have2ndoverpair or have2ndtoppair or haveset or havetrips or havetwopair or havestraight or haveflush) call force

When opponents = 1 and opponentisallin and (bets = 1 or raises = 1) and betsize < 10% stacksize and (havetoppair or haveoverpair or have2ndoverpair or have2ndtoppair or haveset or havetrips or havetwopair or havestraight or haveflush) call force

When StackSize < 7 and (havetoppair or haveoverpair or have2ndtoppair or have2ndoverpair or havetrips or haveset or havetwopair or havestraight or haveflush) Raisemax force

When Stacksize < 11 and raisesbeforeflop and (havetoppair or haveoverpair or havetwopair or havetrips or havestraight or haveflush) and not (nobettingonflop or onecardstraightpossible or onecardflushpossible) raisemax force

When Stacksize < 11 and raisesbeforeflop and (not nobettingonflop) and onecardflushpossible and (haveflush or haveset or havestraight) raisemax force

When Stacksize < 11 and raisesbeforeflop and not (nobettingonflop or onecardflushpossible) and onecardstraightpossible and (havestraight or haveset) raisemax force

When stacksize > 75 and betsize > 17% stacksize and paironboard and not (havefullhouse or havetrips or haveflush or havestraight or hand = AA or amounttocall < 18% potsize) fold force
When stacksize > 75 and betsize > 17% stacksize and (not paironboard) and flushpossible and not (haveflush or haveset or havestraight or havetwopair or amounttocall < 18% potsize) fold force
When stacksize > 75 and betsize > 23% stacksize and (not paironboard) and (not flushpossible) and straightpossible and not (havestraight or haveset or havetwopair or haveoverpair or amounttocall < 18% potsize) fold force
When stacksize > 75 and betsize > 23% stacksize and (not paironboard) and (not flushpossible) and (not straightpossible) and not (haveset or havetwopair or haveoverpair or amounttocall < 18% potsize) fold force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and paironboard and not (tripsonboard or twopaironboard) and (havetrips or havefullhouse or haveflush or havestraight) raisemax force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and paironboard and not (tripsonboard or board = KK or board = QQ or board = JJ or board = TT or board = 99 or board = 88) and (havetrips or havefullhouse or haveflush or havestraight or hand = AA) raisemax force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and not (paironboard or onecardflushpossible or onecardstraightpossible) and flushpossible and (haveflush or haveset or havestraight or havetoptwopair) raisemax force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and not (straightpossible or flushpossible or paironboard) and (haveset or havetwopair) raisemax force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and raises = 0 and calls = 0 and not (straightpossible or flushpossible or paironboard) and haveoverpair and (hand = AA or hand = KK) raisemax force

when (bets = 1 or raises >= 1) and betsize > 15% stacksize and not (opponents = 1 and opponentisallin) and not (havetoppair or haveoverpair or havetwopair or haveset or havetrips or havefullhouse or havequads or havestraight or haveflush or totalinvested > 100% stacksize) fold force

when tripsonboard and (not totalinvested > 100% stacksize) and not (havequads or nutfullhouseorfourofakind = 1 or nutfullhouseorfourofakind = 2 or nutfullhouseorfourofakind = 3 or nutfullhouseorfourofakind = 4 or nutfullhouseorfourofakind = 5 or nutfullhouseorfourofakind = 6 ) fold force

When opponents = 1  and OpponentIsAllIn and (bets = 1 or raises = 1)  and AmountToCall < 40% StackSize  and HaveTopPair and (havebestkicker or Have2ndBestKicker)  and not (onecardstraightpossible or onecardflushpossible or board = KK or board = QQ or board = JJ or board = TT) call force

When (havetoppair or have2ndoverpair or have2ndtoppair) and not (havebestkicker or have2ndbestkicker or have3rdbestkicker or havetwopair or havetrips or haveset or havequads or havefullhouse or havestraightdraw or haveflushdraw or botislastraiser or opponentisallin or totalinvested > 90% stacksize or havestraight or haveflush) and stacksize > 15 and (raises >= 1 or betsize > 15% stacksize) fold force







river

When not (havepair or havetwopair or haveset or havetrips or havefullhouse or havequads or havestraight or haveflush) fold force

When (flushpossible or morethanonestraightpossibleonturn) and bets = 0 and raises = 0 and not (haveoverpair or havetwopair or haveset or havefullhouse or havequads or haveflush or havestraight) call force

When opponents = 1 and opponentisallin and (bets = 1 or raises = 1) and betsize < 14% stacksize and not (onecardflushpossible or onecardstraightpossible) and (havetoppair or haveoverpair or have2ndoverpair or have2ndtoppair or haveset or havetrips or havetwopair or havestraight or haveflush) call force

When opponents = 1 and opponentisallin and (bets = 1 or raises = 1) and betsize < 9% stacksize and (havetoppair or haveoverpair or have2ndoverpair or have2ndtoppair or haveset or havetrips or havetwopair or havestraight or haveflush) call force

When StackSize < 7 and bets = 1 and not (onecardflushpossible or onecardstraightpossible) and (havetoppair or haveoverpair or have2ndoverpair or havetrips or haveset or havetwopair or havestraight or haveflush) Raisemax force

When Stacksize < 11 and raisesbeforeflop and bets = 1 and (havetoppair or haveoverpair or havetwopair or havetrips or havestraight or haveflush) and not (nobettingonflop or onecardstraightpossible or onecardflushpossible or paironboard) raisemax force

When Stacksize < 11 and raisesbeforeflop and bets = 1 and not (nobettingonflop or paironboard) and onecardflushpossible and haveflush raisemax force

When Stacksize < 11 and raisesbeforeflop and not (nobettingonflop or onecardflushpossible or paironboard) and onecardstraightpossible and (havestraight or haveset) raisemax force


When stacksize > 75 and betsize > 17% stacksize and paironboard and not (havefullhouse or havetrips or haveflush or havestraight or hand = AA or amounttocall < 18% potsize) fold force
When stacksize > 75 and betsize > 17% stacksize and (not paironboard) and flushpossible and not (haveflush or haveset or havestraight or amounttocall < 18% potsize) fold force
When stacksize > 75 and betsize > 23% stacksize and (not paironboard) and (not flushpossible) and straightpossible and not (havestraight or haveset or havetwopair or hand = AA or amounttocall < 18% potsize) fold force
When stacksize > 75 and betsize > 23% stacksize and (not paironboard) and (not flushpossible) and (not straightpossible) and not (haveset or havetwopair or hand = AA or hand = KK or amounttocall < 18% potsize) fold force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and paironboard and not (tripsonboard or twopaironboard or onecardflushpossible or onecardstraightpossible) and (havefullhouse or haveflush or havestraight) raisemax force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and paironboard and not (tripsonboard or board = KK or board = QQ or board = JJ or board = TT or board = 99 or board = 88 or onecardflushpossible or onecardstraightpossible) and (havetrips or havefullhouse or haveflush or havestraight or hand = AA) raisemax force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and not (paironboard or onecardflushpossible or onecardstraightpossible) and flushpossible and (havenutflush or have2ndnutflush or have3rdnutflush) raisemax force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and not (straightpossible or flushpossible or paironboard) and haveset raisemax force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and not (straightpossible or flushpossible or paironboard) and havetwopair and havetoppair raisemax force

When betsize > 40% stacksize and raises = 0 and calls = 0 and not (straightpossible or flushpossible or paironboard) and haveoverpair and hand = AA raisemax force

when tripsonboard and (not totalinvested > 100% stacksize) and not (havestraightflush or havequads or nutfullhouseorfourofakind = 1 or nutfullhouseorfourofakind = 2 or nutfullhouseorfourofakind = 3 or nutfullhouseorfourofakind = 4 or nutfullhouseorfourofakind = 5 or nutfullhouseorfourofakind = 6 ) fold force

When opponents = 1  and OpponentIsAllIn and (bets = 1 or raises = 1)  and AmountToCall < 40% StackSize  and HaveTopPair and (havebestkicker or Have2ndBestKicker)  and not (onecardstraightpossible or onecardflushpossible or board = KK or board = QQ or board = JJ or board = TT) call force



Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 02, 2010, 08:13:12 PM
The code in the above post in only the conversion kit. If you are looking for the Doodle profile blended with this kit the latest version is always located at www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt) . It can simply be saved-loaded and used.

If you want to post hand examples with suggestions for improvements on this thread you must use the blended-doodle text profile so that I can see which codelines were executed. Only post hand examples from the bot's own session log and be sure to mention which action you are questioning. Hands recited from memory and poker room hand histories will simply be deleted.

No discussions or technical questions on this thread please.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Bottingiscool on November 04, 2010, 04:20:23 PM
Egor, i downloaded the bot last week so mine already has doodle
88 on it.  So if i want this mtt conversion , i just make those changes
in the options of doodle 88? Do i have to do the ppl thing ? I havent
tried ppl yet.  Do i also have to do the copy and paste or do i just change
in the options what you said to change in the first post ? 


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 04, 2010, 05:58:42 PM
The blended conversion has already been done for you, just click on the link in the post above yours and save the profile into your bot folder. You can also just load the kit itself as a text file if the holdem.ppl file that comes with the bot is loading (although you will need to make the required option menu settings on the bot if you do that).


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Bottingiscool on November 04, 2010, 08:28:20 PM
Do i hit "start" before i load the mtt.txt file or after i load mtt.txt?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 04, 2010, 09:53:02 PM
after


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Legolas on November 17, 2010, 02:21:11 PM
 Hello

I want to start playing tournaments with the bot, I will use the profile doodle + conversion kit, I have a bank of $ 1000 on several of the rooms. I want to play tournaments up to $ 10 buy-in. I would like to know the return of experience on outcomes at this level of tournaments and also the most profitable types of tournaments:

- Guaranteed
- Steps
- Satellites
- Regular
- Sits and go .- 45 and 180 players
- Standard or super or double stack
- Normal speed, turbo or super turbo
- Heads-up or 6-max or 9 - max

thank you very much


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 17, 2010, 06:04:52 PM
It will work in all of those, but personally I have seen the best results in the scheduled events with large fields of 300+ entries. Either that or the guaranteed events where there is a shortfall in entries.

The buy-in level doesn't matter. This profile will do well in events up to $50+5 and even higher. However it sounds like you have a good handle on bankroll management. Don't be afraid of the $12 and $15 (non-rebuy) events however with that bankroll.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Legolas on November 19, 2010, 04:44:55 PM
It is profitable to play rebuy tournaments without add-on?. I mean, I register for the tournament and make the first rebuy. By the time the add-on, the bot is playing alone and I can not make the rebuy.

 Will be profitable this way to play rebuy tournaments?

Thank you very much


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 19, 2010, 05:44:55 PM
That is not my preferred method but it may indeed be profitable because your average cost is so much lower than your opponent's. That is more of a theory question is is probably highly debatable.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: gicumarinaru on December 02, 2010, 08:50:04 AM
Hi, if I deleted holdem.ppl , can i just load mtt.txt in  without making any changes to option menu settings?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: spartan2012 on December 02, 2010, 08:58:49 AM



over 2k finish  IF YOU CANT WIN MONEY U DOIN SOMTHIN WRONG!!!!!!!!

THX EGOR anim_37.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 02, 2010, 07:04:10 PM
Quote
Hi, if I deleted holdem.ppl , can i just load mtt.txt in  without making any changes to option menu settings?

Yes the mtt.txt profile linked in the second reply is complete and includes the option settings.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Haifa on December 11, 2010, 03:16:53 PM
The code in the above post in only the conversion kit. If you are looking for the Doodle profile blended with this kit the latest version is always located late in this thread. Start and the very end and look backwards until you find it. It can simply be copied-pasted-saved-loaded and used.
Hi, where to find it? nothing in this thread for Doodle profile blended with this mtt kit

Thanks,
Henri


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: polpol on December 11, 2010, 03:20:49 PM
Look at Reply #2


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Brooster on December 11, 2010, 04:17:05 PM


over 2k finish  IF YOU CANT WIN MONEY U DOIN SOMTHIN WRONG!!!!!!!!

THX EGOR anim_37.gif

I really wish someone would do a proper journal with this kit. And see how it compares to some of the other profiles out there in the MP.

I will gladly do it when I get a proper bank roll but that could be several months away.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: superfurreh on December 13, 2010, 09:02:56 AM
Just to clarify ...

to run the conversion kit I just download the MTT.txt file and save it into my bot folder.  And then i just start the bot software as normal?

Does it just work "by magic" with the doodle 88 ppl profile?  or do I need to make any changes to the doodle 88 option?  or do I need to delete the doodle 88 ppl?

Sorry to be so thick(!) but appreicate your patience.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Moby on December 13, 2010, 01:02:32 PM
Just to clarify ...

to run the conversion kit I just download the MTT.txt file and save it into my bot folder.  And then i just start the bot software as normal?

Does it just work "by magic" with the doodle 88 ppl profile?  or do I need to make any changes to the doodle 88 option?  or do I need to delete the doodle 88 ppl?

Sorry to be so thick(!) but appreicate your patience.

you don't have to convers anything. In the MTT.txt file, Egor did this already for us.
so you just load the text file into the bot and it will work fine...

don't be sorry, everyone has to learn and it is better to do it right from the beginning

good luck    thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: lucky1 on December 26, 2010, 12:49:23 AM
Hi egor, made the final table recently in a small tournament (under 300) A slightly modified version of mtt kit + doodle. I dont mind pushing 2 pair with under 8 bb, but only when using both whole cards and not  when there is a pair on board.Whats your thoughts and / or opinion on this  hand.   thxs as allways  -L1


Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.6.1: Hand: 5h Tc
Players = 9 Fold
hands played in session = xxx
Flop: 4d 4s 5d
Board: pair with 2 suits
have any two pairs
also board pair < 77
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 8, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = RS 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 4000.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 30150.00, TI = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Bet
Matching user defined condition at line 350, Action = raisemax force
clicking MAX
clicking Bet
Turn: 4d 4s 5d 8s
Board: Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit)
board pair below 99 and have any two pair
River: 4d 4s 5d 8s Ah
Board: Pair possible straight, no possible flush
have any two pairs
also pair possible on turn and no betting on turn
Dealer: xxxxx wins 74,300 with Two Pairs,






line 350 When StackSize < 8  and ( HaveTopPair  or HaveOverPair  or HaveTwoPair  or HaveTrips  or HaveStraight  or HaveFlush ) RaiseMax force


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 26, 2010, 04:25:25 AM
personally for me, that is a shove all day long even with <= 15 BB's so I like the play


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 30, 2010, 03:33:02 AM
post deleted that was an unedited poker room hand history which showed the poker room username of the poster

I really hope you don't get banned after that bonehead move

only post bot-logs, never poker room hand histories


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: BeefHead on January 01, 2011, 10:26:38 PM
hey got a nice run last night saw me a 8place in a gt not a big pay but nice to see it make it would love to of
been awake when hit ft to take over ;D
have played with it a couple of time and it seems to get sucked out on lots when playing the nuts lol unlucky i guess
as i said got a mtt run and made 8th place watch it the hole way to the money ! play a bit my self but it seemed to
be about to make the same move  very nice
one think i have not been able to get a profile that plays and know's it a mtt very nice
now here what i dont like and will fix myself but people my wanna think about doing it too
it has donkey moves what need fixing here some hands

this mtt was very short lol
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.5.7: Hand: Js Jd
Players = 7 have JJ
If calls = 3 or more raise and call or raises, else raise but fold if two raises cold
hands played in session = **
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 3
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 3150.00, TI = 0 BBs
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold
Raise
clicking Bet Pot
Flop: Ah 8d 9d
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
have pocket pair between middle and top board card
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 2, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 17 BBs, Stack = 2050.00, TI = 5 BBs
opponents = 2, position = last
Fold or Bet if checked and fold for a raise
Bot is last raiser and checked to and opponents less than 3
clicking All In
Turn: Ah 8d 9d Kc
Board: No Pair no possible straight two of one suit
have pocket pair between 2nd and 3rd highest card
also two of one suit present on flop
River: Ah 8d 9d Kc 5c
Board: No Pair possible straight no possible flush, two cards needed to make straight
have pocket pair between 2nd highest and 3rd highest board card
RBL1120 wins (7,700) with (Two Pair, aces and nines).
2 people check that flop to me lol bad push anyone with A bad kicker wont bet that flop.
 
ok this is all last nights mtt
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.5.7: Hand: 7c 8h
Players = 7 have 78
if opponents <=3, raise if no calls or raises and fold>1 and 1st card is black but fold if re-raised
hands played in session = **
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 2, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 2
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 32015.00, TI = 0 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 416, Action = raise 3 force
typing 1200
clicking Bet It
Flop: Ah Qh Jh
Board: all 1 suit
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 3, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 17 BBs, Stack = 30815.00, TI = 4 BBs
opponents = 3, position = last
Fold
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 1001, Action = fold force
clicking Check
Turn: Ah Qh Jh 9h
Board: No Pair possible flush (possible straight or not), four of one suit
have 3rd nut flush
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 3, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 17 BBs, Stack = 30815.00, TI = 4 BBs
opponents = 3, position = last
play if no calls and bet but fold if raised
typing 3060
clicking Bet It
River: Ah Qh Jh 9h Qc
Board: Pair possible flush four of one suit (possible straight or not)
have 3rd best flush
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 37 BBs, Stack = 27755.00, TI = 14 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Bet in Last position
typing 5550
clicking Bet It
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 1, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 92 BBs, Stack = 22205.00, TI = 32 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 1384, Action = call force
clicking Call
TERRYCOE wins (33,620) with (Royal flush).
i bet the pot on the turn (got min raised think i did )  and called and called 5K more on the river lol anywany bad play

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.5.7: Hand: 9d 9s
Players = 8 have 99
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. Call in blinds if more calls
hands played in session = **
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 5410.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 253, Action = raise 2 force
typing 600
clicking Bet It
Flop: Js 8s 7c
Board: 2 suits possible straight
have pocket pair between middle and top board card
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 10 BBs, Stack = 4810.00, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 2, position = first
Play if no raise
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = betpot force
clicking Bet Pot
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 50 BBs, Stack = 2710.00, TI = 13 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 959, Action = call force
clicking All In
Turn: Js 8s 7c 9h
Board: No Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit), only one card needed to make straight
have any set
River: Js 8s 7c 9h 7d
Board: Pair possible straight, no possible flush
have 3rd nut full house or 4 of a kind
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.5.7: wins (11,720) with (Full house, nines full of seven
my lucky day say no more. he had set of 8s

ok the next 3 hands have a look at hand 2 stats very happy some how i folded
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.5.7: Hand: Kd 6h
Players = 7 have K6
if opponents <=2, raise if no calls or raises and fold if re-raised
hands played in session = **
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 1, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 9 BBs, Stack = 11095.00, TI = 0 BBs
Fold
clicking Fold
Flop: Kc 5d 9s
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
have top pair
SWEETFLAVA wins (2,000 chips).

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.5.7: Hand: 6d 3c
Players = 7 Fold
hands played in session = **
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 2, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 2
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 11.00, TI = 0 BBs
clicking Fold
Flop: 9h As Qh
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
ELDISASTRO wins (1,500 chips).

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.5.7: Hand: Jd Ks
Players = 7 have KJ
Fold if any raise, raise if folds and no calls else call
Defend Big Blind
hands played in session = **
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 0, raises = 2, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 12 BBs, Stack = 11045.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 674, Action = fold force
clicking Fold
Flop: Qh Tc 4d
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
have straight draw
Turn: Qh Tc 4d Ah
Board: No Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit), two cards needed to make straight
have nut straight
River: Qh Tc 4d Ah Qc
Board: Pair possible straight, no possible flush
have any straight
have best straight
LUCKYDENNIS wins (1,630) with (Two Pair, queens and jacks).
clicking OK

this hand is played great nice work egor
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.5.7: Hand: Ac Ah
Players = 8 have AA
Raise
hands played in session = **
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 12120.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 88, Action = raisemin force
clicking Raise
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 4, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 4
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 17 BBs, Stack = 11520.00, TI = 2 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = raisepot force
Matching user defined condition at line 86, Action = raise 100% force
typing 7200
clicking Bet It
Flop: 5s 5h 4h
Board: pair with 2 suits
have best possible overpair
also board pair < 77
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 75 BBs, Stack = 4920.00, TI = 24 BBs
opponents = 2, position = middle
Bet
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 797, Action = raisemax force
clicking All In
Turn: 5s 5h 4h 4d
Board: 2 pair
have overpair
River: 5s 5h 4h 4d 2h
Board: 2 pair
have overpair
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.5.7: Hand: wins side pot(20,940) with (Two Pair, aces and five
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.5.7: Hand: wins main pot(5,750) with (Two Pair, aces and fives


this hand saw me my 8th place and im happy with it low as on chips over 300+ playes
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.5.7: Hand: As 9h
Players = 7 have A9
Fold if any raise, raise if opponents left <= 3 and no calls or calls and no folds else call
Defend Big Blind
hands played in session = **
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 3
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 1200.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 15085.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = raise force
Matching user defined condition at line 158, Action = raisemax force
typing 15085
clicking Bet It
Flop: 4h 5h Ad
Board: 2 suits possible straight
have top pair
Turn: 4h 5h Ad 3c
Board: No Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit), only one card needed to make straight
have top pair
also only one 1 card straight possible
River: 4h 5h Ad 3c 6s
Board: No Pair possible straight no possible flush, only one card needed to make straight
have top pair
PACKARDHAWK wins (32,770) with (One pair, aces(queen kicker)).

there was 1 hand near the start i ended up allin pre with pair of 6s vs As and i got a 6 on the turn to save me
. was not happy with the play but cant find the log

overall egor great man
thats my input on it and will be making it my mtt profile thanks lots


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: BeefHead on January 01, 2011, 11:09:31 PM
hey egor from the looks of it some of the hands are not coded in the mtt profile and play of the doodle
is that right ? like my top hand JJ ?



Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 01, 2011, 11:16:40 PM
First hand (JJ): Checked to in last position on that flop holding have2ndoverpair with more than 1/3 of our stack invested looking at a 3400 pot with 2050 left in our stack. I like the push because any reasonable bet size is at least the size of our stack, and it is just too wimpy to not try and grab that 3400 pot. Not many of these opportunities come up. Betting less is not an option because it pot-commits us anyway. The only other option is to just give it up, that is try and check it down and fold to any bet - but again that is really wimpy and too dangerous that somebody will pull off a successful bluff or a K or Q will hit and beat us. You will not win many tournaments playing that wimpy.

Second hand (78): We had the third nut flush and were checked to in last position on the Turn. We bet and got one caller (there was no raise on the Turn), who bet the rest of his small stack on the river into us. On the river it was exactly 19 BB's to call for a 92 BB pot when holding 3rd nut flush. Folding that river for that size bet into that size pot with that hand would be the worst play in the history of poker I think.

Third hand (99): After the flop continuation bet (a very reasonable bet with only one non-ace overcard on board) we had half our stack invested and so were pot-committed. You don't seem to understand this concept; either that or you disagree with it - which is fine. I can see maybe trying to fold to the raise on the flop and try and save the small stack to attempt to make a comeback with. However I choose to call 50% stack invested as pot-committed in this profile, and that seems to be working better overall. Needing to win two coinflips to get back to where we would be if we win this hand is about the same odds as us sucking out here with the straight or the set, and with the chance of the raiser semi-bluffing I prefer going in here.

The stacksize misread doesn't belong on this thread and might be fixable by adjusting your screen resolution and/or playing fewer tables.

Thanks for the hand histories however.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: BeefHead on January 02, 2011, 12:31:20 AM
JJ hand man its hard to fix but first player checked he's 2 pair
 hoping for a bet or a push if we checked the flop he would of bet the turn and we could of folded

hand 78 he had like 15K over me
if it was not a 4 card flush on board yeah this hand was played fine
the bet on the turn yeah thats ok see where we are at
but the river being the 3thnuts on 4 card flush board like that there is really no way calling any bet will pay off in the long run

hand 99 yeah 2thoverpair and gutshot yeah its a mtt so had to make the play   


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 02, 2011, 02:03:36 AM
I stand by my analysis of those hands based on what I have already said. The totalinvested numbers and potsize numbers are important to the decisions and I like the plays. I don't want to debate it with you any further, but anybody else is welcome to post their own analysis of them here - because those two hands are interesting situations.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: BeefHead on January 02, 2011, 03:45:51 AM
all good mate
not getting up you
just a couple of things im going to play around with. all my ft places have been in 33$ buyin up and around 300playes thats where my game is the best . and this profile is all most great for that mate . picking a couple bads plays over 500+hands its a work of art man


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 02, 2011, 05:57:44 AM
...especially when those were not bad plays either.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: One Eye JACK on January 03, 2011, 01:43:57 PM
Just wondering, Has anyone tried this doodlemtt at any sit n go's?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: markymark on January 03, 2011, 04:19:27 PM
yup at bodog and it works great at the 2,4 and 8 $ beginner tourn....they pay 5 places and the bot plays tight at first witch works out great and then eats up the last few suckers for the win :) lol GL


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: tweaks on January 03, 2011, 08:02:41 PM
I got best 5% in a few +200 people tourneys recently  dankk2.gif { egor }


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: BeefHead on January 04, 2011, 07:03:59 AM
hey egor sorry
i did not notice and im very sorry it switch profile in that mtt as you may see looking at the line numbers as your kit is under 1K lines
no more posting for beefhead  :(
would you like me or you to remove any what is not yours ?
sorry again might make my name brickhead


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 04, 2011, 07:12:25 AM
I still like the plays, regardless of whose profile it is.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: DukeJohn on January 05, 2011, 07:12:56 PM
Everything was going good and I went to get a cup of coffee and when I came back, I saw I was knock out and the tournament and this is what happen:

Quote
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.6.2: Hand: 4s 4d
Players = 8 have 44
If calls = 3 or more and raises = 0, call but fold for 2 raises cold
raise if opponents left <= 2 and no calls
hands played in session = 46
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = RS 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 500.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 4226.00, TI = 0 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 67, Action = raisemax force
clicking MAX
clicking Raise
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = RS 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 500.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 4226.00, TI = 0 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 67, Action = raisemax force
Raise button not found
Flop: 9s Ad 3h
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
have any pair
but an ace or two face cards on board
Turn: 9s Ad 3h Ac
Board: Pair no possible straight four different suits
have any two pair
also no betting on flop
but ace on board
River: 9s Ad 3h Ac 5d
Board: Pair possible straight, no possible flush
have any two pairs
also pair possible on turn and no betting on turn
Dealer: ffant7 wins 9,652 with Three of a

Line 67 reads:

Quote
line 67: When StackSize <= 9  and ( hand = A suited  or hand = A K  or hand = A Q  or hand = K Q  or hand = Q J suited  or hand = J T suited  or PairInHand ) RaiseMax force

I was running mtt.txt the full txt files as in without a .ppl

What correction can I make so this would not happen, mainly going all-in pre-flop with a pair of 4s.  Or was this just a glitch of some kind.

I am a newbie to this so please forgive my ignorance.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: DukeJohn on January 05, 2011, 07:35:02 PM
After looking at it some more, I realized if I delete the "or PairInHand" part of line 67 that would take care of it, right?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 05, 2011, 08:56:17 PM
You learn fast for a noob.

I like the play. You have less than 9 big blinds there and 44 is a favorite over AK, AQ, etc. and even a hand like A9 is prone to call your small stack pushing. If you don't make a move quickly you will be blinded down to being crippled very shortly, and then need to win a coinflip just to get back where you are now. So you would need to win two coinflips in a row instead of only needing to win one right now, to get back in it.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: gaia on January 09, 2011, 11:08:54 AM
Is the blended conversion+doodle gonna be posted in this thread, like in the old forum?

BR


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: polpol on January 09, 2011, 11:20:47 AM
Is the blended conversion+doodle gonna be posted in this thread, like in the old forum?

BR
Here you are.

www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt

 (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: revelationz on January 10, 2011, 05:01:10 AM
I dont have a graph or anything to show results with this profile, but it does well! Won me entry to one of the bigger sunday tourneys and i let it play up til about 25-30 places out of the money then took over manually. This FREE profile made me a very happy man today! :) lol


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 10, 2011, 05:21:41 AM
four figure score?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: revelationz on January 10, 2011, 06:10:06 AM
No egor, sadly it was only 3 figures. BUT it did match my weekly income from my regular job so im happy! Would have easly been 4, possibly 5 figure ITM but my pockets Aces got cracked. Story of my life! lol.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 10, 2011, 07:43:26 AM
nice going  thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: gaia on January 10, 2011, 10:48:37 AM
Here you are.

www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt

 (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

thx alot


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Nanna3006 on January 12, 2011, 08:13:02 PM
Dear Egor,

I am also newbie to this free kit from you.

Can I smply copy paste it into my profile, or will it be included when I purchase the License?

Can you make this included for tourneys if we agree, and then you include it before sending me the license?

T


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 12, 2011, 10:11:21 PM
This profile is free. It will work during the demo as well, however the demo only lasts for 200 hands of course.

Please read the section near the beginning of the Holdem Bot User Manual; the page about creating, saving, and loading profiles.
 
To use a complete text profile from the forum (such as the MTT Kit + Doodle):
 
1. Copy the code - just the code, in grey, but all of it
2. Paste into a blank Notepad (Start > All Programs > Accessories > Notepad)
3. Save As 'whatever' into your bot folder
4. Load by going to Holdem > Read Profile and typing in 'whatever.txt'
 
Alternatves to step 4:
 
A) Save As 'AutoProfileHoldem' and it will load automatically as the default profile every time you open a bot window
 
B) Save As 'holdem_profile' and it will be the default name of the profile showing in the Read Profile window, saving any typing
 
Do NOT add a .txt extension to the profile name when saving it from Notepad.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: polpol on January 24, 2011, 02:29:30 PM
Is it not possible to check here.

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.6.5: Hand: Qc Qd
Players = 8 have QQ
Raise
hands played in session = 45
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 4, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 4
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 40.00, Pot = 7 BBs, Stack = 2980.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 111, Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: 2c 8d Qs
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
have any set
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 2
casino = UB 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 40.00, Pot = 20 BBs, Stack = 2860.00, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Raise
clicking Bet Pot


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 24, 2011, 06:01:26 PM
possible yes

do I want to? no


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: blackops1 on January 28, 2011, 11:35:11 AM
why fold here?

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.6.6: Hand: Qs Ad
Players = 8 have AQ
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. Call in blinds if more calls
hands played in session = 127
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = UB 6 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = 9891.00, TI = 0 BBs
possible table type error detected
7 opponents have acted but we cannot have more than 6 opponents
In Small Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = raisepot force
Matching user defined condition at line 193, Action = raisepot force
clicking Bet Pot
missed click, restoring state
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = --- 6 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 14 BBs, Stack = 6800.00, TI = 10 BBs
possible table type error detected
7 opponents have acted but we cannot have more than 6 opponents
In Small Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 195, Action = fold force
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 2, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 7
casino = --- 6 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 25 BBs, Stack = 6800.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 192, Action = fold force
clicking Fold
opponent wins (6,975 chips).


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mimic on January 28, 2011, 12:12:28 PM
That log is all screwy, no street cards being shown/read, wrong table type error, etc., so anything could of caused the fold.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: blackops1 on January 28, 2011, 12:35:37 PM
That log is all screwy, no street cards being shown/read, wrong table type error, etc., so anything could of caused the fold.

thats the log I copy/paste after the hand. I was in small blind 6800 chips with AQ button raised about 800 I raise to 3250 he goes all in with around 3800 chips I fold.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 28, 2011, 06:43:27 PM
the resteal preflop from a late position stealer was randomized, if you read the codeline, requires a late position raiser + small betsize + a diamond in our hand

when the action comes back the reraise puts us to an interesting decision - we are not yet pot-committed, we will have to call 3300 more which would leave us 3500 if we lose which is less then 11 big blinds and we will have to start flipping coins to survive

I think we are probably beat there and are either drawing to beat a medium pocket pair or are dominated by AK - the pot size is now worth winning however so with AQ I can see going for it - however folding has a lot going for it as well since we have 22 big blinds still and are probably behind

I am on the fence there and am kind of leaning towards the fold - especially since the reraise that put us in this situation is a randomized action


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: gator101 on January 28, 2011, 11:08:49 PM
Just my 2 cents but i don't really know crap, i have had that happen to me the same way, i think if you invest over 60ish% of your stack you would have to call.  I think if you raise that much 3200 or whatever it was then someone else raise's then you fold it will be very hard to end up in the cash no matter what happens.  I also see your point Egor, after all you have done such a great job of everything and always have a logical response and i cant disagree with.  My personal preference would be to call the reraiser since i was so pot committed.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 29, 2011, 03:14:05 AM
I would also agree with that. In the hand in question only 31% of our stack was invested however.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on February 02, 2011, 07:33:26 AM
Oct. 22 MTT Kit + Doodle 89 has been posted here:

www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: cachetazo on February 02, 2011, 06:48:43 PM
Newby question: Turbo, Ultraturbo, deepstack, etc etc etc etc. What's best suited for?

BTW i just won a 9 sng with him :D



Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on February 02, 2011, 07:06:42 PM
non-turbos, deepstacks are great but any large-field MTT is best


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: cachetazo on February 03, 2011, 04:15:23 PM
great. Thank you!


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: pharmacyst on February 04, 2011, 06:55:05 AM
i am very new to this website, but learning every day. i have played a small amount of mtts and never finished in the money before. tonight i used doodle 89 + mtt because i just wanted to try out the new one and finished 15/671. good job and thank you for the excellent profiles you provide. i appreciate learning and earning from your code.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: gstil06 on February 05, 2011, 10:41:18 AM
Another happy customer Egor!

I had just been using Doodle for cash games, making $10-20 a sitting. But decided to give your MTT profile a go on 3 tournaments last night..............coming 1st and 5th in 2 of them.

 dankk2.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: SethUnter on February 06, 2011, 04:30:40 AM
Full on deadly on carbon (and has the advantage that my tired old eyes can't see the stack sizes on my 1920x1200, so I don't interfere)  thumbsup.gif

edit: 2nd carbon tourney. Won several hundred  for final tabling, bot paid for, happy man  :-*



Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Movo on February 07, 2011, 07:25:20 PM
Hello and sorry for my stupid question.  banghead.gif
But, i`m to stupid to find this two options:

3. Turn Pot-sized preflop raises to 99+ (also a setting on the option menu)

4. Turn off the minimum bet override (also a setting on the option menu, set to play by default)

Sorry but I`m to stupid ( and my English are too bad ) i can`t find this options points.
can everyone show my this points?

Thanks so much :) and sorry  anim_37.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on February 07, 2011, 09:20:23 PM
Quote
3. Turn Pot-sized preflop raises to 99+ (also a setting on the option menu)

Options > Aggressive Play Settings > Make Pot Sized Preflop Raises When (it is the second to last option on the list, just above Always)

Quote
4. Turn off the minimum bet override (also a setting on the option menu, set to play by default)


Options > Aggressive Play Settings > Minimum Bet Overide (the last option on the list, Play by Default Instructions)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Terrorkid on February 08, 2011, 10:39:57 PM
wow egor can't believe what ive seen just now... will provide with botlog as soon as tourney finishes or i wake next morning... had top pair(btw any pair wouldve be enough to call) pot was 71bb and TI 30bb opponent goes all in for less than 1 bb(as far as i remember but it was definetly less than 3bb) and doodle+mtt folds (of course i was playin toruney and had recent version)

SHAME ON YOU!!!!!


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on February 08, 2011, 11:10:53 PM
No, it won't do that, the code has plenty of lines of protection in there and calls all tiny bets like that. Unless of course you were playing at Cake or Red Star where the bot cannot read the betsize/botsize correctly when an opponent goes all-in.

Please don't make silly posts like this without providing the bot-log. If you can't post the log then it never happened.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Terrorkid on February 09, 2011, 01:43:23 AM
like i said heres the log:

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.7.0: Hand: Jh As
Players = 8 have AJ
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. + modified instructions2
hands played in session = 44
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 5
casino = UB, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 6505.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Small Blind
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. + modified instructions2
play but fold if 2 raises cold
Play
clicking Call
Flop: 6d 8s Jc
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
have top pair
also have best kicker
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = UB, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = 6475.00, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 3, position = first
Raise if no raises
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = betpot force
Matching user defined condition at line 403, Action = betpot force
clicking Bet Pot
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = UB, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 24 BBs, Stack = 6235.00, TI = 5 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 545, Action = call force
clicking Call
Turn: 6d 8s Jc 5c
Board: No Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit), two cards needed to make straight
have top pair
also have best kicker
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = UB, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 28 BBs, Stack = 5995.00, TI = 9 BBs
opponents = 2, position = first
Call if no raise but if checked to Bet and call 1 raise
typing 1260
clicking Bet It
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = UB, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 71 BBs, Stack = 4735.00, TI = 30 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 88", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 559, Action = fold force
clicking Fold
XXX wins (4,200 chips).

was played on UB....

line the bot handled was
When StackSize > 75  and BetSize > 23% StackSize  and ( not PairOnBoard )  and ( not FlushPossible )  and StraightPossible  and not ( HaveStraight  or HaveSet  or HaveTwoPair  or HaveOverPair ) fold force

it is 559 in my profile(latest profile available)


 he raised actually 1.xbb ...

what is it with the carma? do i have -1 coz of my previous post? hope u neglect it due to the history i posted now....


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on February 09, 2011, 03:23:46 AM
Excellent. Despite your terrible manners, you caught something that nobody else has caught which has been there over a year. I will fix this in the next MTT Kit version.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Terrorkid on February 09, 2011, 09:04:25 AM
well sry for that... was drunk last night and kinda pissed of watching the bot doin such crap :D 
LOVE UR PROFILES!!!!  anim_37.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Fold on February 09, 2011, 06:13:40 PM
exelent I loved them last posts ,

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Fold on February 12, 2011, 10:51:12 PM
Hi Egor,,,,,,care to enlighten me here

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.7.3: Hand: 4d 3h
Players = 8 Fold
hands played in session = 155
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = UB, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 3000.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 12216.00, TI = 0 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 71, Action = raisemax force
Bet/Raise 12216
missed click, restoring state
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = UB, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 3000.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 12216.00, TI = 0 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 71, Action = raisemax force
typing 12216
clicking Bet It
Flop: 8d 4h 7s
Board: 3 suits possible straight
have bottom pair
Turn: 8d 4h 7s Ks
Board: No Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit), two cards needed to make straight
have any pair
River: 8d 4h 7s Ks 9d
Board: No Pair possible straight no possible flush, two cards needed to make straight
no betting on turn and betting on the flop
also both hole cards are not red
XXXXXXX wins (43,548) with (One pair, fours).


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on February 12, 2011, 11:20:34 PM
read codline 71, with less than 5 BB's and nobody else having raised, we push with everything except the very worst hands - and this isn't one of them

that push is absolutely 100% correct IMO


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mimic on February 13, 2011, 12:42:41 AM
read codline 71, with less than 5 BB's and nobody else having raised, we push with everything except the very worst hands - and this isn't one of them

that push is absolutely 100% correct IMO

With 6 left to act, isn't that a pretty dangerous push, with that kind of hand, even taking into account the stack size?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on February 13, 2011, 07:39:18 AM
I can see that argument, however the later in position we get the more likley there will be raises in front of us. We are really crippled here, if we go through the blinds it takes half our stack! If we push and the blinds fold (could happen at this level as the bet sizes look psychologically big and the blinds may have short to medium stacks) it boosts the stack considerably.

First guy to push often gets the blinds at this stage. Then there is the fact that this hand will rarely be dominated and could win if it gets called (as is what happened). I like the risk/reward ratio of the push here regardless of position.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mimic on February 13, 2011, 10:21:10 AM
I can see that argument, however the later in position we get the more likley there will be raises in front of us. We are really crippled here, if we go through the blinds it takes half our stack! If we push and the blinds fold (could happen at this level as the bet sizes look psychologically big and the blinds may have short to medium stacks) it boosts the stack considerably.

First guy to push often gets the blinds at this stage. Then there is the fact that this hand will rarely be dominated and could win if it gets called (as is what happened). I like the risk/reward ratio of the push here regardless of position.
I can see your point as well, that stack is very short.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on February 18, 2011, 10:59:13 PM
New version posted in the first post of this thread.

I went through every instance of using the word betsize and made sure there were no problems that would cause us to fold for small raises. I found and corrected several instances where it needed to be fixed and/or improved. The main issue were the big stack protection lines for having a stacksize of > 75 as has been pointed out recently in this thread. I added amounttocall < 18% potsize to the not conditions for those lines on every post-flop betting round, which I think will fix the issue nicely while still mostly protecting big stacks.

The February 18 MTT Kit has been blended with the new Doodle 90 and uploaded to the site at the usual link, below. Between the words custom and preflop you will now find the latest version number posted.

www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: polpol on February 23, 2011, 10:48:29 PM
Is this correct to go all in here.

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.7.7: Hand: Qc Qh
Players = 8 have QQ
Raise
hands played in session = 20
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = UB, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 30.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 1580.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 90", Action = raisemax force
Matching user defined condition at line 110, Action = raisemax force
typing 1580
clicking Bet It


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on February 23, 2011, 11:10:40 PM
I like the push with QQ when we have callers in there, yes. If AK or AQ calls we are a favorite, we are a huge favorite against a smaller pair that might call, and of course lots of fold equity.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Terrorkid on March 01, 2011, 07:55:02 PM
hey egor.... can u look over this two hands... i personally wouldve called first one and folded 2nd after the push... they were actually played right one after the other in this order...
was on final table 3 handed against the shortstack me being mid stack.. don't know if u can see this out of the log...  anyway great profile got 3rd out of 700 with it!!!!

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.7.3: Hand: As Qc
Players = 2 have AQ
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. Call in blinds if more calls
hands played in session = xxx
in timer: players = 2, folds in game= 0, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = UB, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60000.00, Pot = 8 BBs, Stack = 1042901.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Small Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle 89", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 197, Action = fold force
clicking Fold
XXX wins (168,000 chips).

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.7.3: Hand: Ts Js
Players = 2 have JT suited
Fold if raises and less calls, raise if opponents left <= 3 fold if 2+ raises cold
Defend Blinds
hands played in session = xxx
in timer: players = 2, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = UB, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60000.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 1036901.00, TI = 0 BBs
Raise
clicking Raise
in timer: players = 2, folds in game= 1, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = UB, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60000.00, Pot = 11 BBs, Stack = 916901.00, TI = 2 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 89", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 208, Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: 2h 9s Ad
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
both hand cards are black
Turn: 2h 9s Ad 6h
Board: No Pair no possible straight two of one suit
special condition rule 5
River: 2h 9s Ad 6h 9d
Board: Pair no possible straight, no possible flush
XXX wins (1,051,624) with (Two Pair, aces and nines).
ME wins (108,000 chips).


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 01, 2011, 08:53:49 PM
I certainly see what you are saying. I don't think there is anything necessarily wrong with either play though.

But - I will change the MTT Kit to start pushing more aggressively when down to opponentsattable <= 3 with a stacksize < 21 and holding AQ, AJ suited, JJ, TT and 99 when raises <= 1. I will also add some more aggressive pushing with AK and QQ+ with a stacksize < 28 and opponentsattable <= 4.

I will also change the Doodle codeline that called the raise with the TJ suited, so that it won't call the raise with that hand group unless the amounttocall is < 33% stacksize (it already has a cap of 8 BB betsize, so this should help with stack management late in tourneys).

 dankk2.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 02, 2011, 07:58:37 AM
March 1 revision posted.

Now pushing more aggressively when down to opponentsattable <= 3 with a stacksize < 21 and holding AQ, AJ suited, JJ, TT and 99 when raises <= 1. Now pushing more aggressively with AK and QQ+ with a stacksize < 28 and opponentsattable <= 4.

Forgot to mention on the Doodle 91 change log that I also made the change for the handgroup that includes TJ suited not to call raises unless the  amounttocall is < 33% stacksize (it already has a cap of 8 BB betsize, so this should help with stack management late in tourneys).

The new blended kit with Doodle 91 has been posted in the usual place:

www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: pokerchamp on March 05, 2011, 08:44:14 PM
Another noob question...
Do i load the doodle profile with this txt file and all is good or do i need to do anything else

Thnx for all support!


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 05, 2011, 09:23:56 PM
Just load this profile:

http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

The Kit is blended with the Doodle already and it has all the correct option settings saved.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: DwayneD on March 07, 2011, 02:28:33 PM
I'm sure this is a really dumb question but if I want to add some pre-flop code of my own can I just add it to the end of the blended doodle pre- flop code? Or will it never get there? What's confusing me is that there is no "when others fold force" at the end so what happens if the bot goes through all the pre-flop code and no conditions match? Presumably going through the pre-loaded pol code won't make any difference because apart from the mtt kit upfront it's the same code?

Thanks for your help.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 07, 2011, 06:41:46 PM
Your own modifications can certainly be blended in but you need to do it carefully. All 1-liners should go at the top of the betting round, open when condition codeblocks should probably go above those but below the 1-liners. Whether or not your code gets found depends on if I have code higher in the betting round that covers the situation - therefore it would be better to use 1-liners for your mods.

My profiles do refer some actions to the original hard-coded root level programming. That is where the bot will find any actions that there is no match for in the text file or .ppl file that is loaded. This is much better than assuming you have all possible poker situations covered and folding everthing else.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: onicamaro on March 08, 2011, 08:32:11 AM
but is the hard coded programming not for cash games?
that's why mtters are also interested in a doodlemtt in ppl format, if the mtt txt does not find an action it can fall back on doodlemtt and not on doodlecash.
or am I missing something?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Moby on March 08, 2011, 09:00:56 AM
doodlemtt in ppl format would be an good thing for sure!   thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 08, 2011, 05:31:42 PM
makes no difference

the text file is blended with the Doodle, anything not there goes to the root programming, if it were in .ppl it would be the same result

the text file covers all stacksize situations that need to be modified for playing tournaments - it would be a big mistake to try and fold everything else as you will probably fold some no-brainer havenuts situations


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: DwayneD on March 08, 2011, 06:28:39 PM
Yep I follow that.

It's just that I have coded the play from     ARNOLD SNYDER'S POKER TOURNAMENT FORMULA book (which is a bit blunt but surprisingly effective in my experience) and I can't work out whether I should put the code before or after the doodle pre flop code.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 08, 2011, 10:17:36 PM
use 1-liners if possible and place them at the top of the betting round

otherwise you will need to read through the existing code looking for the situations to make sure they are not getting acted on differently before you place your codeblock - what I mean is, new codeblocks would go on top of the existing codeblocks, after the 1-liners, wherever that may be, but you will want to read all the existing 1-liners making sure the situation isn't defined in them with a different action

OK enough help with making your own code - lets get back on track here.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: babybot on March 13, 2011, 08:56:30 PM
just played in 6max sng. played ok till last 2 then it goes stupid.
folding kj on button, then all in j5o? maybe im having reso problems?1024 x 768


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 13, 2011, 11:15:28 PM
can't help you without seeing the bot-log


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: babybot on March 13, 2011, 11:43:43 PM
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.7.9: Hand: Kh Js
Players = 1 have KJ
Fold if any raise, raise if folds and no calls else call
Defend Big Blind
hands played in session = 55
in timer: players = 1, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = BetnGo, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 400.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 5040.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Small Blind
Matching user defined condition at line 53, Action = fold force
clicking Fold

thats 1 of them


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: babybot on March 13, 2011, 11:47:11 PM
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.7.9: Hand: Js 5h
Players = 1 Fold
hands played in session = 60
in timer: players = 1, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = BetnGo, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 400.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 3840.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Small Blind
Matching user defined condition at line 35, Action = raisemax force
clicking MAX
clicking Raise

5 hands later


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: babybot on March 13, 2011, 11:54:24 PM
i see the line now.

line 35: When OpponentsAtTable = 1  and StackSize < 10  and calls = 0  and raises = 0  and not ( hand = 2 3  or hand = 2 4  or hand = 2 5  or hand = 2 6  or hand = 2 7  or hand = 2 9  or hand = 2 T  or hand = 3 7  or hand = 3 8  or hand = 3 9  or hand = 3 T  or hand = 4 9  or hand = 4 T ) RaiseMax force

seems a bit rough at first but i guess i understand it now.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 14, 2011, 07:44:55 PM
Both plays were a stacksize issue. With the KJ you had 12.6 BB's left. This is a tough spot and we are really looking for a pushing hand, an ace or a pair or big suited connectors. I hear what you are saying though. We are in real danger of being blinded out, which is pretty much what happened. But on the other hand pushing with KJ there, can be a real problem - if we get called we are probably really going to be dominated. I cannot see making any kind of raise there other than pushing with 12 BB's left.

With the J5 hand we have less then 10 BB's and that is the threshold that I call desperation time. Gotta start pushing almost everything. I can understand your analysis of the situation, that it looked stupid. But the threshold has to be set somewhere and I set it at 10 BB's. Just before the threshold I am going to be leery of hands that will be dominated.

If you had a decent stack the profile would play normal poker, raising with the KJ and of course folding with the J5.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: beanhunter66 on March 16, 2011, 03:44:58 AM
my third hand into a $1 ub tounrey that has 150+ people
what is going on?


Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.8.1: Hand: 4h Kc
Players = 1 Fold
hands played in session = 6
in timer: players = 1, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 4, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = UB, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 10.00, Pot = 182 BBs, Stack = 1485.00, TI = 177 BBs
possible table type error detected
5 opponents have acted but we cannot have more than 2 opponents
resetting table type to 6 Max table. correction will take affect from next hand
invalid opponents = 0
setting opponents to 6
Calling because our stack size is small compared to total invested
clicking All In
Flop: 6d 2h 9c
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
Turn: 6d 2h 9c Tc
Board: No Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit), two cards needed to make straight
special condition rule 5
River: 6d 2h 9c Tc 3d
Board: No Pair possible straight no possible flush, two cards needed to make straight
JOESHOW111 wins (3,025) with (One pair, queens).



HUH? WHAT


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 16, 2011, 05:53:02 AM
Not a profile issue, please start a Help board thread and on that do confirm that you carefully followed all the UB setup instructions from the Quick Start section of our Holdem Bot User Manual that comes with the bot.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mimic on March 16, 2011, 04:10:50 PM
my third hand into a $1 ub tounrey that has 150+ people
what is going on?


Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.8.1: Hand: 4h Kc
Players = 1 Fold
hands played in session = 6
in timer: players = 1, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 4, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = UB, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 10.00, Pot = 182 BBs, Stack = 1485.00, TI = 177 BBs
possible table type error detected
5 opponents have acted but we cannot have more than 2 opponents
resetting table type to 6 Max table. correction will take affect from next hand
invalid opponents = 0
setting opponents to 6
Calling because our stack size is small compared to total invested
clicking All In
Flop: 6d 2h 9c
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
Turn: 6d 2h 9c Tc
Board: No Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit), two cards needed to make straight
special condition rule 5
River: 6d 2h 9c Tc 3d
Board: No Pair possible straight no possible flush, two cards needed to make straight
JOESHOW111 wins (3,025) with (One pair, queens).



HUH? WHAT

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't look like you have a profile loaded.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mimic on March 19, 2011, 04:11:42 PM
Just load this profile:

http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

The Kit is blended with the Doodle already and it has all the correct option settings saved.

Hi Egor,

Just a thought, but maybe post this link in the OP, so newbs can find it easily, instead of reverse searching the thread for the link.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 19, 2011, 07:15:11 PM
It is in reply #2.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 25, 2011, 08:10:50 AM
March 1 MTT Kit + Doodle 92 is now posted at: www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: svennis on April 03, 2011, 11:33:11 PM
I just wanted to say, THANK YOU!
This has really helped me alot, as i always donk out before the money, due to lack of patience.

Thanks to this profile, i have had more final tables in 3 days, than i have had all of last year!

GREAT WORK SIR!


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 13, 2011, 08:14:19 AM
March 1 MTT Kit + Doodle 93 is posted at www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: blargg on April 13, 2011, 01:43:32 PM
when i copy and paste this to a text file, some of the lines get broken up and continued on the next line, does this interfere with the code?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 13, 2011, 04:24:13 PM
they don't get broken up, if the profile loads it is intact


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Fold on April 13, 2011, 09:14:57 PM
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.8.9: Hand: 4s 3h
Players = 8 Fold
hands played in session = 42
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = Bodog 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = 4120.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Big Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle 93", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 105, Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: 5d Ad 9d
Board: all 1 suit
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 6 BBs, Stack = 4060.00, TI = 2 BBs
opponents = 2, position = middle
Fold
universal rule 5: raises before flop and ace flopped and have below top pair
clicking Check
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 1, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 18 BBs, Stack = 4060.00, TI = 2 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 93", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 509, Action = fold force
clicking Fold
Turn: 5d Ad 9d 6c
Board: No Pair possible flush three of one suit, including possible straights needing two cards
have straight draw
River: 5d Ad 9d 6c Kc
Board: No Pair possible flush three of one suit, including possible straights needing two cards



Hi Egor just a little confused on this one (as always)

Thx for the new improvements though, profile seems to be playing a tad looser  thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 13, 2011, 11:03:08 PM
late position min-raiser, I like the call, you can read line 105 yourself for the explanation


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: margrietina on April 17, 2011, 05:46:37 AM
Please, i need your guidance! Is there any way to convert cash profiles to SnG play; like, if i take free working profiles in text form; is it limited to MTT conversion kit? i know too little and i can not see the difference between SnG and MTT anyways; thanks for your help;


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 17, 2011, 05:57:14 AM
You can use the MTT kit in post one of this thread. Follow the instructions for blending it with the cash game profile.

You may want to raise the stacksize levels a little where the bot starts pushing, if using it in 1-table SNG's.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Fold on April 21, 2011, 10:45:33 AM
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.9.1: Hand: Kh Ac
Players = 6 have AK
Raise if no raises but fold if 2 raises cold else play
hands played in session = 4
in timer: players = 6, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 20.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 1480.00, TI = 0 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 99, Action = raisepot force
clicking POT
clicking Raise
Flop: Ks Qc Jc
Board: 2 suits possible straight
have top pair
also have best kicker
also have backdoor nut flush draw
in timer: players = 6, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 20.00, Pot = 8 BBs, Stack = 1410.00, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Raise if no raises
Bot is last raiser and checked to and opponents less than 3
clicking POT
clicking Bet
Turn: Ks Qc Jc Kc
Board: Pair possible flush (possible straight or not)
have trips with an overcard kicker
in timer: players = 6, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 20.00, Pot = 25 BBs, Stack = 1240.00, TI = 12 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Bet in Last position
clicking Check
River: Ks Qc Jc Kc Ts
Board: Pair possible flush three of one suit (possible straight or not)
have any straight
but one card straight possible
in timer: players = 6, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 20.00, Pot = 25 BBs, Stack = 1240.00, TI = 12 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Play
clicking Check
in timer: players = 6, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 20.00, Pot = 38 BBs, Stack = 1240.00, TI = 12 BBs
clicking Call



Hi Egor

was nt this play just a tad to cautious here


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: SC on April 21, 2011, 03:12:13 PM
While reading the HU Push code I found this:

When opponentsattable = 1 and stacksize < 7 and ...

I think you may improve the code with: MaxOpponentStackSize < 7 and MaxOpponentStackSize > 0 like this:

When opponentsattable = 1 and (stacksize < 7 or (MaxOpponentStackSize < 7 and MaxOpponentStackSize > 0))

Since usually the HU stack pushes are simetrycal.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 21, 2011, 05:04:18 PM
I like check-calling that hand since we are out of position. It is probably the only way we can make any chips on that board.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: James007 on April 22, 2011, 08:23:41 PM
March 1 MTT Kit + Doodle 92 is now posted at: www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

Is there a link for Doodle 93+mtt kit, too ?
would be a real nice service :)
All the best
J.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 22, 2011, 10:14:54 PM
yes that is it


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 06, 2011, 05:59:33 AM
March 1st MTT Kit + Doodle 94 has been posted here: www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: snapcracklepopperhead on May 07, 2011, 08:52:19 AM
not trying to trash any MP profiles but just some feed back on the MTT Kit.

i have never really given this a decent crack

so i have been running it for a couple of weeks now in <= $15 tourneys and have had excellent results.

most recent = 3 final tables in 4 days with 1 1st place.  ;D

best results in NON turbo tourneys

cheers big E

(or maybe i'm just trying to keep youse out of turbos) .......


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 07, 2011, 08:58:41 AM
the luck factor is bigger in turbos

good players (like the Doodle) do better with big stacks and lots of time


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: snapcracklepopperhead on May 10, 2011, 05:19:55 AM
Egor

saw the code push with pocket 9's and a long way still to go in a tourney: This is the code that did it.

line 277 / 278


Code:
When hand = 9 9
When StackSize < 26  and raises <= 1 RaiseMax force

i feel this is too loose.
we still had 16 BB's. and a raise in front.

bot log:
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 5.9.3: Hand: 9s 9c
Players = 8 have 99
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. Call in blinds if more calls
hands played in session = 55
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 2, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 2
casino = Bodog 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 1600.00, TI = 0 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 278, Action = raisemax force
typing 1600.00
clicking Raise



Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 10, 2011, 05:32:50 AM
I like that play and would rather push with 99 before getting stack-crippled.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: snapcracklepopperhead on May 11, 2011, 11:47:24 AM
stack crippled? ok


anyway - another FT today / 3rd place - nice little win.  good work E


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 11, 2011, 04:53:30 PM
You know what I mean.

99 is fairly strong and worth a 25-BB push in a tournament IMO. Usually that push has decent fold equity associated with it and is a favorite against AK or AQ or even a hand like JT suited. You also figure to be up against 88 and 77 some of the time you are called.

Like Doyle says, "you have to gamble on one of those hands sooner or later" and with 99 I would rather do it while I still have enough of a stack to make doubling up put me in a good position.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 11, 2011, 10:09:01 PM
Help issues deleted, please use the Help board.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: snapcracklepopperhead on May 12, 2011, 02:42:18 PM
fair enough. i'm inclined to hold the push a little longer and make a call with the raise in front.

all good though


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: snapcracklepopperhead on May 14, 2011, 01:54:21 AM
Egor

you must have a ton of tourneys graphed using this profile now. How about showing us some of your results?



Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 14, 2011, 05:18:05 AM
I still have not gotten on board with PT3 or HEM. Too busy selling picks and shovels I guess. I also still enter every event manually, cherry-picking them. Sometimes I forget to click over to my botting computer for days on end. I will tell you that this method works for me and I am able to make gradual progress in my account. This profile accounts for 90% of my personal botting efforts.

Even if I did the stats/graph thing I wouldn't post them because they would not be seen as credible from the guy that sells the software.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: snapcracklepopperhead on May 14, 2011, 06:39:47 AM
E I have to say that is pretty piss poor. I am disappointed.

 ::)

i got over it though

 ;D

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: snapcracklepopperhead on May 15, 2011, 07:14:09 AM
MTT Kit got me to another guarantee FT today.

took over and placed 2nd for payday!!!!

$$$$


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: belvedere on May 22, 2011, 09:38:42 PM
Hi Guys im new to the forum (first day today) quick question............. When loading the  MTT Kit + Doodle 94 into the bot the code is displayed correct? How comes when I look at the txt file saved in c drive it seems like theres 10 times more code

Probly a simple answer to this, I can confirm I have copied the whole file and saved in the relevent folder

Thanks


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 22, 2011, 11:17:32 PM
Only the option settings display in the bot window, read section 2 of the user manual for more info, and please start  Help board thread if you have more questions about that.

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Title: Am I missing something?
Post by: ilovewindows on May 26, 2011, 04:07:14 PM
Latest MTT Kit + Doodle Blend

...can be opened and saved directly to your bot folder here:

www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)



Hi all, 1st post. Used this profile in a $3 rebuy (joined at 45 mins and waited til rebuy was over before starting bot) just wondering how and why this profile managed to get 100 BB's in on the flop with bottom pair....final action was a call, which I assume was based on pot odds, but IMO the 1st reraise committed it to the pot unnecessarily. This program is extremely aggressive with no  brakes, or is there something I need to do. I found some of its aggression odd. Can I post the hands I found questionable somewhere for review.

Cheers


windows


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 26, 2011, 04:34:20 PM
Make sure you were really using the profile from that link, and not the default profile in the bot (which is for cash games). If so, this is the appropriate thread for posting questionable plays from the bot log - only from the bot log please, not from the poker room hand history. And one or two at a time please.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 28, 2011, 06:56:06 PM
Help posts removed, please use the help board.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Balu66 on June 03, 2011, 11:40:17 PM
Hi Egor, when do you register into a non Turbo MTT, what is your recommendation.
Is it better to start from the beginning of the tourney,
or from mid or
better short before Entrance closes?

When starting early, doodle has more time to develop,
on the other hand more blinds to pay and to fight with more donkies.

I am asking this espacially to your current doodle + MTT Conversion Kit.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on June 04, 2011, 03:37:20 AM
beginning, or as close to as possible (non-rebuy events)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Rusty205 on June 12, 2011, 05:51:37 AM
probably shouldnt have but I used the MTT in a 6 max cash game  for about 2 hours and got out ahead about 150. Thanks for the mtt Egor  you did good  


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on June 12, 2011, 06:07:36 AM
all it really does is start pushing with a short stack and tighten up to protect a big stack, so the idea may not be that wacky - except for the preflop pushing with AK in small pots, that can get you killed in cash games, lucky you never had that when somebody else had AA/KK


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: jamesrweetch on June 13, 2011, 04:32:25 PM
Hi got a final table finish today by using mttdoodle to start then lionv11 got to the last 100 out of 5000 with a nice stack then took over.
cheers guys just paid for my bot


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Rusty205 on June 20, 2011, 08:41:04 PM
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.0.2: Hand: 9h Ac
Players = 7 have A9
Fold if any raise, raise if opponents left <= 3 and no calls or calls and no folds else call
Defend Big Blind
hands played in session = 2
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 4, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 4
casino = RS 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 30.00, Pot = 9 BBs, Stack = 1.00, TI = 0 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 73, Action = raisemax force
clicking MAX
clicking Raise
Flop: Qc Ts 6s
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
Turn: Qc Ts 6s 5d
Board: No Pair no possible straight two of one suit
special condition rule 5
River: Qc Ts 6s 5d Jc
Board: No Pair possible straight no possible flush, two cards needed to make straight

Was this a case of misreading, it was the third hand of a tournment,one person had already made it 240  and 2 left to call after I went max


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Aenima773 on June 20, 2011, 09:17:40 PM
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.0.2: Hand: 9h Ac

in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 4, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 4
casino = RS 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 30.00, Pot = 9 BBs, Stack = 1.00, TI = 0 BBs


Was this a case of misreading, it was the third hand of a tournment,one person had already made it 240  and 2 left to call after I went max


Yes it was. Your stack size was misread. Check to see if everything is set up exactly as the manual says it is supposed to be for that casino.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on July 06, 2011, 07:49:16 AM
March 1st MTT Kit + Doodle 95 now available at www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

best verson yet  thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on August 05, 2011, 04:19:17 AM
March 1st MTT Kit + Doodle 96 now posted at: www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Hotbot on August 05, 2011, 10:20:45 PM
Hi Egor,

Do i still need to make / include all the settings on page 1, first post, or are these now already donefor the latest Mtt Conversion + Doodle 96 ?

Tx


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on August 05, 2011, 10:29:27 PM
If you are using the kit in post 1 to blend with a cash game profile then you would want to adjust the option settings as I recommended in that post.

If you are just using the kit blended with the latest doodle profile that I posted, that already has the option settings saved in it.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: bobdown66 on August 13, 2011, 01:54:52 PM
Is there no logic in this profile when short stacked ? I set this up to play a tourney with 200+ people every day when i go to work, I constantly come home in the afternoon and look at the logs and see my last bet is 40 or 50 chips, my chips are just dwindled away with antes and blinds, no effort is made to push at all. Is there no <12 or 10 big blinds push with any picture card rule in there so a tleast I have a chance of a doubleup instead of just dwindling my chips away to nothing ?

B


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on August 13, 2011, 07:23:51 PM
All you have to do is read the beggining of the profile. The entire purpose of this kit is stack management and it starts pushing aggressively when it's stacksize is 9 BB's or less. If it isn't doing that then you don't have this profile loaded. (You can see from the kit in the first post of this thread that at line 22 it starts pushing with a short stack, and when it has less than 5 BB's it pushes with any two cards.)

If you are going to post something like that here please include a bot-log example. Otherwise it never happened.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Pippithedog on August 16, 2011, 07:21:32 PM
Hi Egor:  I have a probably really stupid question.  To play MTTs with your blend, I copy the txt of the blend, make it a text document (sayMTT6), open 6.0.8 and read in my text document and play.  Correct or not?  Thnx  Ron


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on August 16, 2011, 10:33:09 PM
yes that is 100% correct, assuming you are referring to the MTT Kit + Doodle blend posted at www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

when saving from regular Notepad do not add the .txt extenson to the profile name

...but do include it when reading the profile name in

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Pippithedog on August 17, 2011, 05:02:58 AM
Egor:  Thanks.  Ron


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: addy123 on September 04, 2011, 08:45:41 PM
Hey  Egor,

first of all I have to say that your profile is quite awesome. Played a week with it and have already won around 400 € with it. However I have seen some (in my point of view) stupid moves from it and would like to post the botlogs here. Unfortunately I dont know how to get them.... Can you please tell me how to get the botlogs?

Thanks again for your awesome work mate!


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mrphil on September 04, 2011, 10:43:23 PM
Hey  Egor,

first of all I have to say that your profile is quite awesome. Played a week with it and have already won around 400 € with it. However I have seen some (in my point of view) stupid moves from it and would like to post the botlogs here. Unfortunately I dont know how to get them.... Can you please tell me how to get the botlogs?

Thanks again for your awesome work mate!

In the folder where the bot is, there should be text files that say holdem.txt,  holdem2.txt ...etc
These are the bot logs.
Please note that they will be overridden one by one when you open up a new session of the bot and open up multiple occurrences of it


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 05, 2011, 05:28:42 AM
3.5 Session Log

The bot records a log of every hand played. This is a text file that is created automatically and placed in the folder or directory where you keep the bot program files, the default location being c:\poker\data. It’s simply named holdem, (or holdem.txt with the file type extension). Each time you open the bot the previous session is erased from the log and overwritten with the new session. When you use the multi-table function, multiple session logs are created, one for each table or tournament being played. These are named holdem2 and holdem3. They are overwritten just like the 1-table log the next time you have two or three tables going.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: addy123 on September 06, 2011, 08:35:05 AM
Hi Egor,

here is a move I consider to be fishy play...

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.0.8: Hand: Qs Ah
Players = 9 have AQ
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. Call in blinds if more calls
hands played in session = 42
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 7, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 7
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 80.00, Pot = 7 BBs, Stack = 3525.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Big Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle 96", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 223, Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: 5d 4c 8h
Board: 3 suits possible straight
have two overcards
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 7, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 80.00, Pot = 9 BBs, Stack = 3365.00, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 2, position = first
Fold
clicking Check
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 8, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 1
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 80.00, Pot = 14 BBs, Stack = 3365.00, TI = 3 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 96", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 533, Action = call force
clicking Call
Turn: 5d 4c 8h Jc
Board: No Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit), two cards needed to make straight
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 8, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 80.00, Pot = 18 BBs, Stack = 2985.00, TI = 7 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Fold
clicking Check
River: 5d 4c 8h Jc Ks
Board: No Pair possible straight no possible flush, two cards needed to make straight
no betting on turn and betting on the flop
also both hole cards are not red
also pair or best kicker is present and first hand card is black
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 8, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 80.00, Pot = 18 BBs, Stack = 2985.00, TI = 7 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Play if no raise
Matching user defined condition at line 856, Action = fold force
clicking Check
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 8, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 80.00, Pot = 31 BBs, Stack = 2985.00, TI = 7 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 96", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 856, Action = fold force
clicking Fold


I really don't see why he calls on the flop. I have nothing against bluffs but he should have bet or reraise when he intended to bluff. The call on the flop is in my point of view the worse play possible. We had only a 12 % chance to hit the ace or the Queen on the turn... What are your thoughts about this hand?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 06, 2011, 08:51:20 AM
Without really analyzing the codeline that was executed, I have no problem with the call on the flop in that hand. We were not the preflop aggressor and the betsize was smallish, only around half of the potsize and not a big chunk of our stack either. Good chance the guy betting is making a weak continuation bet there and so a pretty good chance we do have the best hand on the flop. I expect him to check the Turn - which he did - and then we can steal it on the river if a scare card does not hit (unfortunately one did).

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: addy123 on September 06, 2011, 08:59:50 AM
I see your argument, however we invested more than 10% of our stack here.... We were in first position and I personally would have bet on this flop and hope for a fold of the opponent. Personally for me it is in most cases a bad idea just to call because we did not show strenght with this passive play...

Rest of it great work!! thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Pippithedog on September 06, 2011, 03:54:31 PM
Egor  Is the MTT doodle blend intended to be used with Omaha bots or just hold'em?  Ron


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 06, 2011, 06:04:48 PM
Omaha is a different poker game entirely and requires an Omaha-only designed profile.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Pippithedog on September 06, 2011, 09:10:46 PM
Thnx


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 07, 2011, 08:44:40 AM
Thread cleaned up, help issues deleted - use the help board please.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: addy123 on September 09, 2011, 01:29:16 PM
Hi, here is another hand I am not happy with.

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.0.8: Hand: 9c 9d
Players = 9 have 99
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. Call in blinds if more calls
hands played in session = 30
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 6, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 8 BBs, Stack = 1725.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Big Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle 96", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 295, Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: 3c 8s 8h
Board: pair with 3 suits
have any two pairs
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 7, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 16 BBs, Stack = 1485.00, TI = 5 BBs
opponents = 2, position = first
Bet but fold if 1 raise
Matching user defined condition at line 376, Action = raisemax force
clicking MAX
clicking MAX
clicking Bet


Couldnt believe that he played 99 so aggressive. We were in the beginning of the turney and not in a desperate position...


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: joesphnichole on September 09, 2011, 01:43:51 PM
well what happend. im guessing u lost. but how many times did that work. the way i see it the other guy either had a 8 probally not or a over pair or a-k. but probally a-k right he called and what he got lucky think about it


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: addy123 on September 09, 2011, 01:53:17 PM
he got 1010 .... really do not understand why he went all in here. 99 is really not that strong.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 09, 2011, 04:29:26 PM
It only does that with an overpair when your stacksize < 25, you made that threshold by one chip. The pair on board has to be 88 or lower. If you see a play that has you scratching your head you should probably first read the codeline that was executed so you can understand the logic behind the play.

If you have a suggestion for an alternative way to play it I am all ears. For example, betting the pot as usual and then folding to a raise - that will cost us 75% of our stack so that isn't going to work. Even just betting 60% of the pot there pot-commits us, and anything less is just a weak looking bet.

I don't like checking and folding either as AK or even AQ is going to bet that every time and calling anything more than a 50% of pot bet pot-commits us anyway.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: addy123 on September 23, 2011, 05:45:35 PM
Hi Egor,

here is another hand I  would never play like the bot did:

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.1.1: Hand: 9h 9d
Players = 7 have 99
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. Call in blinds if more calls
hands played in session = 101
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 3
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 250.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 5507.24, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 96", Action = raisemax force
Matching user defined condition at line 290, Action = raisemax force
clicking MAX
clicking MAX
clicking Raise

line 290 says: When StackSize < 26  and raises <= 1 RaiseMax force

Obviously our stack was below 26 BB. However we had a stack which was just a little below the average stack (approximately 6500) and we were in  place 11 with 19 opponents left. Do you really think it was necessary to go All In here??? Iwould rather call or raise three BB or so in this situation. As I said we were in a good position in the turney and had good chances to reach the final table. Moreover the bot was UTG in this situation...



Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 23, 2011, 10:52:34 PM
I like the push with 22 BB's there. Next best play in my opinion would be folding.

Raising takes our stack under 20 BB's and starts to get us short-stacked if we then have to fold; in a couple more orbits we would then be down to about 14 BB's and will be praying for that 99 to come back so we can try and double up. May as well do it now IMO.

On the other hand if we raise to 3 BB's and then make a flop c-bet that will cost 10 BB's and leaves us only 12 BB's if we then have to fold (say a Q flops and the opponent raises our flop C-bet). So in reality trying to play this any other way than pushing or folding almost pot-commits us anyway.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: tuffnutz on September 24, 2011, 09:02:24 PM
March 1st MTT Kit + Doodle 96 now posted at: www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

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Hi All

Just started with this so wanna make sure i get this right!!!!

I want to play a mix of MTT SNG and Cash (not all the same time.) If I am having an MTT session do I just load and save this txt file as the default then go ahead and play the tournies?

I then just load and save my SNG or Cash profile and keep switching over profiles as needed?

Also the link quoted - I don't need to do any of the stuff on the first page with this right? Also if I have changed some settings in the option tab on the bot will uploading a new proile override them?

Ta All


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 24, 2011, 09:23:44 PM
The answer is yes to every single question in your post, seems like you got a handle on it - hey, you must have actually read the manual!
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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: cannotdecide on September 26, 2011, 10:17:30 PM
I see the logic there.  I love this particular profile actually and the one Im exploring right now.

There are situations where you might be average stacked on your own table, close to bubble and a shove seems wreckless. The only way to avoid those would probably be for the bot to be able to read itm position and add a command that says to tighten up if within a certain % of that spot. Is that at all possible from your coding side?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: vilvil on September 26, 2011, 10:21:54 PM
not possible atm


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 26, 2011, 11:28:51 PM
I remained unconvinced that changing strategy around the bubble is +EV. This is not the [place for the debate however.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: addy123 on October 06, 2011, 12:16:34 PM
Hi Egor,

here is a really stupid move by the bot... :

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.1.1: Hand: Ts Tc
Players = 8 have TT
If calls = 3 or more raise and call or raises, else raise but fold if two raises cold
hands played in session = 75
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 4172.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 96", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 123, Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: 6h Kc 9d
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
have pocket pair between middle and top card
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 2, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 3972.00, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 2, position = last
Fold or Bet if checked and fold for a raise
clicking POT
clicking POT
clicking Bet
Turn: 6h Kc 9d 3d
Board: No Pair no possible straight two of one suit
have pocket pair between top card and 2nd highest card
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 9 BBs, Stack = 3372.00, TI = 4 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
raise if bet and fold if reraised else bet and fold if raised
typing 1350
clicking Bet

I stopped the bot playing after the second barrel because i did not want to loose the whole stack with this hand. I agree that the first barrel makes sense under certain circumstances (although i wouldnt play this hand this way). The opponent called which means in most cases that he has top pair with a poor kicker (which he actually had). I really do not understand why the bot bet on the turn!? We lost half of the stack with this stupid play....  banghead.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on October 06, 2011, 04:42:20 PM
Not a stupid play at all, and certainly not a head-banging play. Don't assume that just because you want to play weak-tight and give up every single pot where an opponent floats your bet on the flop that it is the right play, or the way the rest of us want to play. That Turn is an excellent board for a randomized 2nd barrel attempt in my opinion, especially since we have 2nd top pair beat.

FYI 2nd barrel attempts in this profile, when a non-scary board like this is present and you have only one opponent, are randomized 25% (that 3 out of 4 times the conditions are right it will still give it up like you wanted to). In my opinion always giving that up on the Turn is simply playing too weak and I like taking a shot with the 2nd barrell 25% of the time.

It would not, of course, have continued when called on the Turn - give me a little credit there.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: addy123 on October 06, 2011, 06:08:35 PM
Hey mate,

there was a king on board.... This is a scary board with this hand!!! Additional to this we were not the preflop aggressor which means that we did not have to fire two barrels and loose 50% of our stack...


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on October 06, 2011, 11:02:57 PM
On the flop they both checked so I cannot see not betting the flop. So now on the Turn we are down to one opponent who checks again, and there is only one overcard on board and no straight or flush possible.

I think the opponent holds a 9 or 78 there often enough to justify betting the Turn again 25% of the time randomly, which is exactly what this profile does. In fact I think it is perfect. Even if the opponent has a weak king they might lay it down there if we bet, and 75% of the time we will check behind there and give it up.

Just giving it up 100% of the time is a little weak for my taste, the 75% of the time that we do check behind the missed draw will bet the river and steal it.

Thanks for the hand. I understand it is frustrating to see half your stack go there, but I do not think giving up all 2nd barrell situations would be an improvement.

You can just change the option setting Never Bet Turn or River with Hand Below to Top pair


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: addy123 on October 07, 2011, 07:54:48 AM
I see your argument after considering all this....  thumbsup.gif  However what I do not understand is that the bot played less aggressive even with top pair and top kicker in certain situations. I saw the bot folding a few times with AK on such boards when the opponent reraises.... This is all a little bit confusing for me.... Bot log of such a situation will follow.

Cannot emphasize enough that I am in general totally happy with your work !!! dankk2.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on October 07, 2011, 08:18:37 AM
All good brother  8)

keep the logs coming, helps keep me honest.....


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: addy123 on October 10, 2011, 09:07:59 PM
Hi Egor,

I am looking forward to hear your thoughts about this hand....

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.1.1: Hand: 9d Td
Players = 9 have T9 suited
play if any calls and raise if opponents left <= 3
fold if raises and no calls
hands played in session = 22
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 5, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 5
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 9 BBs, Stack = 1170.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Small Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle 96", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 331, Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: Jd 7d 7h
Board: pair with 2 suits
have flush draw
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 8, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 14 BBs, Stack = 870.00, TI = 5 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Raise if no raises
Not betting because of Never Bet Below option value
clicking Check
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 8, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 28 BBs, Stack = 870.00, TI = 5 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 96", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 372, Action = fold force
clicking Fold

I think it is much too optimistic to call 5 BB with suited connectors. Furthermore I think the bot should have called on the flop when considering the pot odds. Really do not understand why the bot calls 5 BB here especially because he folds them always utg ...


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on October 11, 2011, 07:28:03 AM
...because there are two calls, that makes the preflop call desirable and the preflop fold a bad play. I like calling there better than raising.

On the flop an opponent makes a pot-sized bet of 14 big blinds. That is too high to call, you need to raise or fold there and i think folding is better.

You tell me how better to play it. Folding preflop is much worse and calling on the flop is just horrible, amateur hour stuff.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Essexboyz on October 29, 2011, 12:02:47 PM
Just want to say thanks. I bought an MTT profile and it didn't really do what it said.  The profile was too passive and made some questionable plays. I downloaded your conversion and finished 2nd on a 6max mtt with 35 players for $17 as well as getting in the money in another 6 max tourney. It only got knocked out of a large field MTT by having its QQ rivered by AQ.
I really reccomend this profile so thanks one again.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: zukinha on October 29, 2011, 01:36:23 PM
what profile you recommend in all MTT coversion kit?
because in there has alot


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on October 29, 2011, 06:13:54 PM
He is probably using the Doodle-MTT Kit blend, the latest version is always at: www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: addy123 on October 30, 2011, 09:55:58 AM
Perhaps you can explain why the bot played this hand like this....



Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.1.1: Hand: Js Jh
Players = 7 have JJ
If calls = 3 or more raise and call or raises, else raise but fold if two raises cold
hands played in session = 40
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 2, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 2
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 80.00, Pot = 7 BBs, Stack = 1715.00, TI = 0 BBs
User defined variable UserEarlyRaiser set to true at line 98
play but fold if 2 raises cold
Play
clicking Call
Flop: 2d 2h 2c
Board: 3 of a kind
have full house.
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 3, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 80.00, Pot = 12 BBs, Stack = 1475.00, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 3, position = last
Fold
clicking Check
Turn: 2d 2h 2c 2s
Board: 4 of a kind
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 3, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 80.00, Pot = 12 BBs, Stack = 1475.00, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 3, position = last
Fold
Default Profile: "Doodle 96", Action = fold force
User defined variable UserLowTurn set to true at line 623
Matching user defined condition at line 723, Action = fold force
clicking Check
River: 2d 2h 2c 2s 4c
Board: 4 of a kind
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 1
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 80.00, Pot = 25 BBs, Stack = 1475.00, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 2, position = last
Fold
Default Profile: "Doodle 96", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 869, Action = raisemax force
typing 1475
clicking All In
poker window not found. Attempting to re-establish connection
could not find poker window $500 GP Freezeout
The supported poker rooms are - Bodog, UB, Cake, Redstar, BetNGo, WilliamHill, Gutshot, Titan, Titan.fr and Genting
Please make sure that a Hold'em table is open from one of the above rooms before clicking start

Two mistakes in my opinion: Firstly the bot should have bet on the flop (no must); secondly the bot should never go all in with just a Jack as high card... We had really nothing on hand here.

I am looking forward to hear your thoughts about this... Thx


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on October 30, 2011, 06:39:32 PM
You discovered a real hole in the code on the river there, thanks! This is line 193 in the MTT Kit - it needs to have tripsonboard added to the (not conditions) like in line 192 above it. I will fix this and get a new version out soon.

I also agree with you on the flop and will fix the next version of the Doodle to make a stabbing bet on the flop when there are tripsonboad and we hold any full house and bets = 0 and raises = 0, regardless of the number of opponents. Version 96 doesn't bet when opponents >= 3 in that situation because it starts getting concerned about quads out. However I now think the best way to fnd out is to bet about 75% of the pot.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 10, 2011, 03:44:05 AM
New version of the kit with the above mentioned fix now posted.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 10, 2011, 04:26:52 AM
November 9 MTT Kit + Doodle 97 now available at: www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: 1st place in $10 tourney
Post by: Essexboyz on November 22, 2011, 02:32:00 PM
 party0007.gif $10 tourney played with no assistance using doodle + mtt. Result= 1st prize $5xx brilliant  thumbsup.gif

Also a big thanks for all your help and hard work.  party0052.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: addy123 on November 23, 2011, 06:49:44 PM
Couldn`t believe what I have seen here:

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.1.8: Hand: Tc Ac
Players = 8 have AT suited
Fold if raises and less calls, raise if opponents left <= 3 fold if 2+ raises cold
Defend Blinds
hands played in session = 18
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 40.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 1275.00, TI = 0 BBs
Play if no raise
clicking Call
Flop: Td Ts Kc
Board: pair with 3 suits
have trips with best possible kicker
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 2, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 40.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 1235.00, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 2, position = last
Raise if no raises
clicking POT
clicking POT
clicking Bet
Turn: Td Ts Kc Kd
Board: 2 pair
have 2nd best full house
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 40.00, Pot = 9 BBs, Stack = 1115.00, TI = 4 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Call if no raise but if checked to Bet and call 1 raise
User defined variable User2PB set to true at line 625
typing 270
clicking Bet
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 1, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Titan, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 40.00, Pot = 29 BBs, Stack = 845.00, TI = 10 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 97", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 604, Action = raisemax force
clicking MAX
clicking MAX
clicking Raise
poker window not found. Attempting to re-establish connection
could not find poker window $1,000 GP Freezeout
The supported poker rooms are - Bodog, UB, Cake, Redstar, BetNGo, WilliamHill, Gutshot, Titan, Titan.fr and Genting
Please make sure that a Hold'em table is open from one of the above rooms before clicking start

It was in my opinion very obvious that the opponent holds a king here.... I am looking forward to hear your thougts about this...


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 23, 2011, 07:20:51 PM
While you could have presented this in a nicer fashion, I do see your point. However you did not specify which play you would alter or at what point you think it is obvious that he has a king.

When the opponent checks on Turn I do not think betting is a bad play because he easily could have called the bet on the flop with a smaller pocket pair or a draw like QJ. Therefore if we check behind him on the Turn we need to call his River bet (if it is pot-sized or below), because of the likelihood of an inspired bluff on the River after we show weakness on the Turn. I like bettting the Turn and folding to the check-raise better (as long as the bet does not pot-commit us, which in this case it would not because we only have invested about 1/3 of our stack).

So while I agree with your ultimate assessment, it is more complicated than you make it seem in your post. What I am going to do is add twopaironboard to the not conditions in lines 148 and 191 of the MTT Kit in the next version, to keep those lines from being executed in the future.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: tweaks on November 23, 2011, 08:07:51 PM
In this case i would bet Pot on the turn(before the raise) and fold for the raise after. (also as long the bet does not pot-commits us)
When u get raised after 2 times betting the POT i can fold more easy. It shows some more strength he might fold his Ks6s to your KcQc


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 23, 2011, 09:02:14 PM
Betting 270 into 360 is more optimal IMO, especially with a stack of only 1115, if you want to get away from a potential check-raise


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 30, 2011, 07:03:18 AM
New version of the kit dated November 30 is now posted (in the first post of this thread).

Full house situation on the Turn and River with two pair on the board has been modified, no longer pushing with the bottom full house when the top pair is a high one.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 30, 2011, 07:38:51 AM
November 30 MTT Kit + Doodle 98 is now posted at: www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: polpol on December 08, 2011, 03:35:39 PM
Hi.
You think we can call here.
I see TI = 0 BBs ?


Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.1.9: Hand: Kh Ac
Players = 9 have AK
Raise if no raises but fold if 2 raises cold else play
hands played in session = 7
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 3
casino = Everleaf, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 10.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 1475.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 98", Action = raisepot force
User defined variable UserTrap1 set to true at line 99
Matching user defined condition at line 102, Action = raisepot force
clicking POT
clicking Raise
Flop: As 9c 9d
Board: pair with 3 suits
have two pairs including best possible non board pair
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 7, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Everleaf, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 10.00, Pot = 15 BBs, Stack = 1430.00, TI = 0 BBs
opponents = 2, position = middle
Call if no raise but if checked to Bet and call 1 raise
Default Profile: "Doodle 98", Action = betpot force
Matching user defined condition at line 440, Action = betpot force
clicking POT
clicking Bet
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 8, raises = 1, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 1
casino = Everleaf, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 10.00, Pot = 90 BBs, Stack = 1280.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 98", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 365, Action = fold force
clicking Fold


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 08, 2011, 06:15:36 PM
That is a pot-sized raise and with 2 opponents seeing the flop I like the fold. usually if you call that, you will be leaving the tournament looking at a 9 in your opponent's hole cards. You can make an argument that no hand with a 9 in it will call your pot-sized preflop raise I suppose, but neither should any other hand that can raise the pot on the flop there. I still like the fold.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: polpol on December 16, 2011, 04:19:44 PM
I think we are to aggressive here.
I will fold here.
Early in the MTT.

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.1.9: Hand: Ac Kc
Players = 7 have AK suited
Raise
hands played in session = 7
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 1, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = Everleaf, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 10.00, Pot = 16 BBs, Stack = 1460.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 98", Action = call force
User defined variable UserEarlyRaiser set to true at line 98
User defined variable UserDead set to true at line 101
Matching user defined condition at line 284, Action = call force
clicking Call
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 4, raises = 2, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 4
casino = Everleaf, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 10.00, Pot = 94 BBs, Stack = 1385.00, TI = 7 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 98", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 80, Action = raisemax force
typing 1460
clicking Raise


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 16, 2011, 06:51:20 PM
with two raises I can see your point - on the other hand we can catch them with JJ and QQ  and triple up by making a pair, so in the long run I don't think it really matters


Title: dumb question
Post by: Essexboyz on December 22, 2011, 01:30:43 PM
Hi Egor if I wanted to add your little green profile to your mtt blend how would i do this  dankk2.gif and happy holidays in advance  anim_65.gif anim_65.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 22, 2011, 05:36:54 PM
Follow the instructions in the first post of this thread, and use the Help board if you need more help with that please.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Essexboyz on January 02, 2012, 04:22:05 PM
Hi Egor
Happy new year. Question about doodle +mtt blend. You correctly point out that the profile is all about stack management, something the profile does very well. However, as the blinds rise I have noticed that it won't really hike up the aggression in order to steal blinds and antes+ increase its stack, it seems to wait for a trigger point in terms of the amount of bb it has before going into push mode. I don' t watch my profiles all the time when they play obviously so I may be wrong about this. If this is correct is there any way or any plans to pump up agression in the mid to late stages to steal blinds/antes and increase our stack?  dankk2.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 02, 2012, 06:49:45 PM
Your post is a pretty good example of an unhelpful post. What exacty are you suggesting, raise to 3 BB's when you have a stack of 14 BB's on the button when holding J6, or what?

The kit (when blended with a good cash game profile such as the Doodle)  has made many final tables and taken many top three spots in large fields all on it's own. Therefore I will not make changes, for fear of making it worse, unless I am provided with bot-log examples of situations where the play can be improved.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Essexboyz on January 02, 2012, 10:52:51 PM
Hi Egor
My post certainly wasn't meant to be unhelpful and obviously I don't mean raising 3bb from 15bb on the button with total garbage. However, making mini raises in late position when we have a healthy stack and the blinds are large enough (bb 100+) I think can be a profitable way to maintain our stack.
I appreciate you are very happy with the profile and it did get me my first major score with the bot, so no complaints. Just making a suggestion is all  ;D
Peace brother  party0052.gif thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: joesphnichole on January 02, 2012, 11:33:08 PM
i can understand what you are saying. i think thre are 2 ways to look at it. some people like to play more hands (me) and others like to play a tight game not alot of bluffing and so on. i dont think in the long run you can prove either way to be better. i have tried aggrressive profiles and i personally like then, but i have tried tight profile like this 1 and i think over a peroid of time they both perform good. either you are running good and not perfect hands will win untill you have a guy with the perfect hand you didnt think he would have that nails you like this profile will wait untill then. sorry kinda alot of rambling hope this helps atleast i know what i mean to say  lolk.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: poker83 on January 03, 2012, 08:13:53 PM
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.2.1: Hand: 7s Ac
Players = 6 have A7
raise if opponents left <= 2 and calls = 0 else fold
hands played in session = 39
in timer: players = 6, folds in game= 1, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = Everleaf, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 1855.00, TI = 0 BBs
Fold
Raising Max due to Pre Flop Aggressive Tournament setting
Raising Max due to Pre Flop Aggressive Tournament setting
typing 1855
clicking Raise
Flop: Th Kc 8s
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
both hand cards are black
Turn: Th Kc 8s Qc
Board: No Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit), two cards needed to make straight
River: Th Kc 8s Qc Tc
Board: Pair possible flush three of one suit (possible straight or not)
...... wins 4,160 from main pot with two pairs, aces and tens [

is this normal play ???  ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 03, 2012, 08:22:58 PM
I don't know what profile you were using, but the MTT Kit + Doodle posted at www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt) includes all the proper option settings on the bot and does not have the aggressive tournament setting turned on, like you did, which was responsible for that push.

That being said, with less than 7 big blinds left in your stack, pushing with any ace is not a bad play. You will be blinded out in 4 orbits and crippled beyond reasonable hopes of a comeback in two orbits - and that might be the best hand you see before then.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: poker83 on January 03, 2012, 08:35:10 PM
oke thanks egor!

lol my bad. i did not load the mtt kit + the doodle haha! it wahs a other profile and even you do now the gameplay of it! dammm you are good!
hahahahahahah

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thanks bye the way! hahaha!

i'm sorry for the post!

Greetz! dankk2.gif beer.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: linden on January 05, 2012, 03:32:38 PM
When you get moved to a new table the bot stops playing for you. How can you fix that?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: vilvil on January 05, 2012, 03:52:53 PM
When you get moved to a new table the bot stops playing for you. How can you fix that?
the bot should automaticall connect to the new table
but could get in trouble if you are playing more than 1 MTT at the same time


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 05, 2012, 06:24:34 PM
That is not a profile issue, please use the Help board. Table changes are followed autiomatically by the bot and always have been.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 21, 2012, 09:02:53 AM
Nov 30 MTT Kit + Doodle 99 now available at: www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: zazza on January 21, 2012, 04:55:15 PM
Doodle 99...????????


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: lucky7 on January 21, 2012, 05:15:38 PM
Where can this profile being best used, don;t see alot mtt on cake.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 21, 2012, 07:23:18 PM
Plenty of MTTs on Cake, they go off all day long, at any given time you can choose from 2 or 3 of them for late registration plus two or three more starting within the next half-hour. This is not the proper thread for asking about how to navigate a poker room lobby.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on February 16, 2012, 06:00:21 AM
Thread cleaned up. Everybody is welcome to offer feedback and suggestions for improving this profile. However please follow proper protocol and provide hands played from the bot's session log showing where you think the hand could have been played better, and why. See the many existing pages of this thread for examples on how to do that.

For general technical questions and help with tweaking your own profile please start your own Help board or PPL board topic.

To answer one of the deleted questions, a quick read of the MTT Kit codelines will reveal the adjustments that this profile makes based on it's stacksize (most of which are push codes when it starts to get short-stacked).

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: 581Robis on March 04, 2012, 02:45:05 PM
Hi Egor,

What do you think about that move on flop? I think that I understand the intent of it but the situation is pretty dangerous (early riser and the flop fitting his possible holdings) and extremely costly. May be you will consider some tuning?

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.1.9: Hand: Ts Th
Players = 7 have TT
If calls = 3 or more raise and call or raises, else raise but fold if two raises cold
hands played in session = 108
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 5, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 5
casino = WilliamHill, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 600.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = 22760.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Small Blind
User defined variable UserEarlyRaiser set to true at line 95
If calls = 3 or more raise and call or raises, else raise but fold if two raises cold
play but fold if 2 raises cold
Play
clicking Call
Flop: Ac Js 9d
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
have any pair
but an ace or two face cards on board
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = WilliamHill, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 600.00, Pot = 7 BBs, Stack = 21260.00, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Fold
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 389
Matching user defined condition at line 448, Action = fold force
clicking Check
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = WilliamHill, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 600.00, Pot = 9 BBs, Stack = 21260.00, TI = 3 BBs
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 389
Matching user defined condition at line 581, Action = raisepot force
clicking POT
clicking POT
clicking Raise
Turn: Ac Js 9d 4s
Board: No Pair no possible straight two of one suit
have pocket pair between 2nd and 3rd highest card
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = WilliamHill, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 600.00, Pot = 35 BBs, Stack = 12660.00, TI = 17 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Fold
Matching user defined condition at line 711, Action = fold force
clicking Check
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = WilliamHill, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 600.00, Pot = 42 BBs, Stack = 12660.00, TI = 17 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 614, Action = fold force
clicking Fold

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 04, 2012, 07:00:57 PM
Line 581 of this profile (Mtt Kit + Doodle) is a Fold line, so it does not appear you were using the same profile. If you blended the kit with a different cash profile, then I cannot really answer to it.

If you made your own tweaks, then you should post line 581 of the profile you are using.

However I do like the check-raise on that flop when the opponent bets 2 into a 7 size pot, especially if it is a randomized action.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: 581Robis on March 05, 2012, 01:35:52 PM
Hi,

I am using exactly the blended profile you have posted without any changes. The lines Nr. maybe are different because of saving as profile in the bot (my assumption). There is the line 581 from my saved profile:

line 581: When BetSize <= 25% PotSize  and opponents = 1  and Random <= 20 RaisePot force

I understand what you mean; I also like check-rise bluff or semibluff on flop as random action. What I wanted to point was to may be exclude this action on certain dangerous situations as this one. Secondly I think that nearly the same effect would be reached with smaller rerise, say 6BB or so, but with much lesser risk to your stack - 14BB in that case.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 05, 2012, 06:07:49 PM
So you see it is a 20% randomized action and I have no problem with it. I understand your point about making the raise size less, however when the bot has the nuts it will check-raise the pot like this, therefore I think the randomized bluff should act the same way as not to have a detectable pattern.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: 581Robis on March 06, 2012, 01:43:10 PM
I understand your point of view but partially disagree. It would be true on high level games where such pattern possibly becomes noticed but most probably not at the levels where bot is usually playing. On the other hand check rise with nuts also might be with variable amounts because the aim here is not to chase opponent away.

Excluding check-rise bluff on certain dangerous flops is also an option.

These are only my thoughts, please don't see them abusive!

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 06, 2012, 07:00:44 PM
No you make good points.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Poker8 on March 11, 2012, 10:05:42 PM
Is this played correctly?
 
Thanks

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.2.4: Hand: 9c 3c
Players = 9 Fold
hands played in session = 25
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = RS 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 3620.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Big Blind
Matching user defined condition at line 87, Action = fold force
clicking Check
Flop: 4h 5h 4c
Board: pair with 2 suits
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = RS 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 3620.00, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Fold
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 392
Special condition for NL games applies
Bet but fold if 1 raise
Not betting because of Never Bet Below option value
clicking Check
Turn: 4h 5h 4c 3d
Board: Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit)
board pair below 99 and have any two pair
also no betting on the flop
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = RS 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 3620.00, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
raise if bet and fold if reraised else bet and fold if raised
Setting Bet/Raise amount to 1090
clicking Raise
River: 4h 5h 4c 3d Qc
Board: Pair possible straight, no possible flush
have any two pairs
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = RS 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 9 BBs, Stack = 2530.00, TI = 4 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Play if no raise
Matching user defined condition at line 881, Action = call force
clicking Check
Dealer: Villian wins 2,940 with Two Pairs,


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 11, 2012, 11:28:03 PM
Yes. He makes a min-bet after no betting on the flop, on a board full of babies. I like the raise - looks like we made a straight. Good strong poker move and I like the risk/reward ratio at that point because we can really use the $900 in the pot at this stage of the tourney.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: bestinthewest on April 07, 2012, 02:40:41 AM
Is this the proper play 10 mins into a tourney and not give my opponent credit for a flush?

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.3.3: Hand: 5s 5c
Players = 7 have 55
raise if opponents left <= 4 and no calls
If calls = 2 or more and raises = 0, call but fold for 2 raises cold
If raises = 1 or more and calls = 3+, call and call all raises
If raises = 1 or more and calls = 2 or less, fold
defend blinds
hands played in session = 5
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 2, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 2
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 20.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 2990.00, TI = 0 BBs
Play
clicking Call
Flop: 4c 5d 9c
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
have any set
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 20.00, Pot = 6 BBs, Stack = 2970.00, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 2, position = middle
Raise
Default Profile: "Doodle 99", Action = raisepot force
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 392
Matching user defined condition at line 432, Action = raisepot force
clicking POT
clicking Raise
Turn: 4c 5d 9c Qc
Board: No Pair possible flush three of one suit, including possible straights needing two cards
have any set
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 20.00, Pot = 33 BBs, Stack = 2720.00, TI = 13 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Raise if no raises
typing 605
clicking Raise
River: 4c 5d 9c Qc Ks
Board: No Pair possible flush three of one suit, including possible straights needing two cards
have any set
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 20.00, Pot = 199 BBs, Stack = 2115.00, TI = 43 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Bet
Default Profile: "Doodle 99", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 1030, Action = call force
clicking All In
clicking Close


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 07, 2012, 02:43:03 AM
You really want to fold that set?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: bestinthewest on April 07, 2012, 02:49:50 AM
Not really, but just seemed obv he was fishing for the flush.  Just interested in your thoughts sir.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 07, 2012, 03:30:23 AM
I think calling is the lesser of the two evils.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: lucky7 on April 24, 2012, 12:26:28 PM
can i use doodle mtt in 30man sng with bubble 5? or any tweak that I have to do?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 24, 2012, 05:52:43 PM
what profile you use has no bearing on the functionality of the bot

this is a solid tournament profile and has even been used successfully in 1-table SNGs


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: James007 on May 19, 2012, 12:58:37 AM
Hey egor,
could you please tell me, if you have experience in using this profile for rebuys ?
how could we manage this ?
Is there a possibility to make a doodleMTTRebuy.txt and then change profile after the rebuy hour has ended ?

Thanks in advance. Keep on doing good work friend !

James


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 19, 2012, 04:35:13 AM
This profile is good for any kind of tounament. Rebuy tournament strategy is a subject for a different thread, and is not really a profile issue, but more of a way to decide how many times you want to rebuy (if at all). Obviously, the bot cannot make rebuys for you. I will not discuss that here, because this thread is for improving this profile.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: James007 on May 19, 2012, 07:51:25 AM
Hey Egor,
thanks for your reply. I will open up a new thread then, if that is ok for you.
James


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: James007 on September 08, 2012, 01:10:27 AM
Hey guys !
I am back at poker after a while. The question I have is:

Is the DoodleMTT v99 still the active one ? or is there an update ?

Thanks a lot

CU and good hands !

J.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Poker8 on September 08, 2012, 01:16:05 AM
Hey guys !
I am back at poker after a while. The question I have is:

Is the DoodleMTT v99 still the active one ? or is there an update ?

Thanks a lot

CU and good hands !

J.

I believe that v99 is still current. thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: ozbot on September 11, 2012, 06:54:57 AM
Not sure how this happened???...pushed all-in with J4 UTG, using latest doodle MTT


Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.5.5: Hand: Jd 4d
Players = 7 Fold
hands played in session = 30
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = RS 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 500.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 2475.00, TI = 0 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 76, Action = raisemax force
clicking MAX
clicking Raise
Flop: Th Td Js
Board: pair with 3 suits
have any two pairs
Turn: Th Td Js As
Board: Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit)
have any two pairs and no betting on flop
but top board card is an ace
River: Th Td Js As 2d
Board: Pair possible straight, no possible flush
have any two pairs
also pair possible on turn and no betting on turn
Dealer: XXXXX wins 6,100 with Two Pairs,


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: ozbot on September 11, 2012, 07:01:41 AM
Not sure how this happened???...pushed all-in with J4 UTG, using latest doodle MTT


Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.5.5: Hand: Jd 4d
Players = 7 Fold
hands played in session = 30
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = RS 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 500.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 2475.00, TI = 0 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 76, Action = raisemax force
clicking MAX
clicking Raise
Flop: Th Td Js
Board: pair with 3 suits
have any two pairs
Turn: Th Td Js As
Board: Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit)
have any two pairs and no betting on flop
but top board card is an ace
River: Th Td Js As 2d
Board: Pair possible straight, no possible flush
have any two pairs
also pair possible on turn and no betting on turn
Dealer: XXXXX wins 6,100 with Two Pairs,


I see now...

line 76: When StackSize < 5  and raises = 0  and not ( hand = 2 3  or hand = 2 4  or hand = 2 5  or hand = 2 6  or hand = 2 7  or hand = 2 9  or hand = 2 T  or hand = 3 7  or hand = 3 8  or hand = 3 9  or hand = 3 T  or hand = 4 9  or hand = 4 T ) RaiseMax force

I might change that to StackSize < 3 perhaps.  Was still a full table and dont think it was the right move at that point.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 11, 2012, 04:18:46 PM
you got a good flop actually - I like the push at that point, I don't like getting so short-stacked that I have to push with anything and then double up just to get back to 5 BB's, at least if you push there you can get back to 10 BB's and be back in it


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: ozbot on September 11, 2012, 11:48:19 PM
you got a good flop actually - I like the push at that point, I don't like getting so short-stacked that I have to push with anything and then double up just to get back to 5 BB's, at least if you push there you can get back to 10 BB's and be back in it
Yeah, the flop was promising, but the push was pre-flop... If I alter the code and just remove that line is that OK?  Is it referred to elsewhere, it doesnt appear to be.  Thanks.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 12, 2012, 12:28:33 AM
You can alter the profile however you want - you can change the 5 to a 3 in that line, or if you don't mind being blinded out you can remove it altogether

personally I play to win, not hang on forever with a pathetic short stack, so I like to make a move before being hopelessly crippled


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 14, 2012, 10:34:06 PM
Doodle 100 + MTT Kit posted:

www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: lucky1 on September 17, 2012, 12:35:12 AM
Hi egor, wanted your opinion on this hand with 2 big raises in front and just under 10bb.Maybe add a little protection for 2+ raises in front with 9-10 bb for aq hands or less? dankk2.gif-L1


Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.5.9: Hand: Ad Qd
Players = 8 have AQ suited
Raise if no raises but fold if 2 raises cold else play
hands played in session = 79
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 3, raises = 2, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 3
casino = RS 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 37 BBs, Stack = 2924.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v100", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 73, Action = raisemax force
clicking All In
Flop: 7c 2h 5d
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
have two overcards
also have backdoor flush draw
Turn: 7c 2h 5d Jd
Board: No Pair no possible straight two of one suit
have any flush draw
also have two overcards
River: 7c 2h 5d Jd Jh
Board: Pair no possible straight, no possible flush
Dealer: xxxxx wins 7,888 with Two



When StackSize <= 9  and ( hand = A suited  or hand = A K  or hand = A Q  or hand = K Q  or hand = Q J suited  or hand = J T suited  or PairInHand ) RaiseMax force





Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: SethUnter on September 17, 2012, 01:07:36 AM
Quote
Raise if no raises but fold if 2 raises cold else play
hands played in session = 79
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 3, raises = 2, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 3
casino = RS 10 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 37 BBs, Stack = 2924.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v100", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 73, Action = raisemax force

Too many cooks spoil the broth


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 17, 2012, 01:55:28 AM
It's a valid point lucky and I will take it under advisement, although in your example I still like pushing with the suited version there and picking up some pot equity and even if both players call there is a chance to triple-up there which probably = final table


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: fleurie on September 17, 2012, 02:14:27 PM
I think we need more info to decide the correct play. I shove AQs with less than 10 BB's most of the time. Against 2 raises, we need to consider other factors before deciding to shove or fold.

- If it's 2 min raises then I'm still shoving because many players min raise with air.

- If one of the players is a short stack allin then I'm still shoving because they often shove light.

- If it's the very late tourney stage then I'm still shoving because players are getting more aggressive and you have to match them to survive... and you also need to get lucky, that's an important ingredient to win tourneys.

In Lucky's example though, I think a fold is okay. The pot is 37 BB so either both players made large ranges suggesting strength, or one player made a huge raise (possibly allin) also suggesting strength.



Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Eintracht on December 28, 2012, 01:47:59 PM
Hi, i use this profile, but i have seen 2 times, that the bot bets preflop 10/7 offsuit. This hand should be folded but it seems the bot likes it. And it bets with this hand postflop potsize in a A/3/4board. I try to copy the bot-log time.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 28, 2012, 05:34:02 PM
well if the bot is folded to on the button then yes it will raise with that hand a random % of the time unless it has a short stack - this is intentional and considered good strong poker

the flop continuation bet is standard and is also good strong poker, see the explanation of the Doodle profile strategy on the Discussion board (a sticky topic) for the pot-sized bet explanation

I like both plays, raising to open with 10-7 from the button followed by a pot-sized flop C-bet when there are 2 or less opponents as long as our stack is healthy


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Eintracht on December 28, 2012, 08:47:17 PM
The bot does it one time (like you said) from the button to get the blinds, but another time in 3rd position on a 9 player table.
I watch out for it. Ty


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 28, 2012, 11:53:25 PM
No this profile does not do that. You probably have a display settings / reading issue and should start a Help board thread and provide a bot-log.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Eintracht on December 29, 2012, 09:42:12 PM
Now the bot made a reraise preflop with K/10 suited. On another table it foldes K/Q suited?

I would like to post the logs, but i don't know where i can copy it. During the game it's not possible.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Eintracht on December 29, 2012, 10:00:28 PM
Ok, now i know where to get the log. Here it is:

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.7.3: Hand: Kd Td
Players = 8 have KT suited
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. + modified instructions2
hands played in session = 22
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 5, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 5
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 160.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 5025.00, TI = 0 BBs
User defined variable UserEarlyRaiser set to true at line 99
Raise
clicking Raise
Flop: 6s 6c 3c
Board: pair with 2 suits
deck pair < 88 and both hole cards are red
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 2, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 160.00, Pot = 9 BBs, Stack = 4545.00, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 2, position = last
Fold
Default Profile: "Doodle v100", Action = betpot force
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 395
Matching user defined condition at line 448, Action = betpot force
clicking POT
clicking POT
clicking Bet
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 8, raises = 1, checks = 2, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 160.00, Pot = 84 BBs, Stack = 3025.00, TI = 12 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v100", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 366, Action = fold force
clicking Fold


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Eintracht on December 29, 2012, 10:24:11 PM
Another One; why not raising the JJ's here?


Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.7.3: Hand: Jd Jc
Players = 8 have JJ
If calls = 3 or more raise and call or raises, else raise but fold if two raises cold
hands played in session = 48
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 120.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 7355.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v100", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 130, Action = call force
clicking Call
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 2, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 120.00, Pot = 27 BBs, Stack = 7235.00, TI = 1 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v100", Action = fold force
User defined variable UserDead set to true at line 102
Matching user defined condition at line 242, Action = fold force
clicking Fold


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Eintracht on December 29, 2012, 11:34:40 PM
And what do you say to this one? I won, ok, but how can it raise Q/10 suited in this case?

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.7.3: Hand: Tc Qc
Players = 8 have QT suited
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. + modified instructions2
hands played in session = 7
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 5
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 400.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 14328.00, TI = 0 BBs
Raise
clicking Raise
Flop: 6d Ah 6c
Board: pair with 3 suits
have backdoor flush draw
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 400.00, Pot = 5 BBs, Stack = 13528.00, TI = 2 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Fold or Bet if checked and fold for a raise
Default Profile: "Doodle v100", Action = betpot force
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 395
Matching user defined condition at line 448, Action = betpot force
clicking POT
clicking POT
clicking Bet


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: webber04 on December 29, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
its called an iso raise
when 1 limper and position is late u should always iso raise in these situations
unless your stack was too small which it wasnt at 30+ bbs


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 30, 2012, 12:11:55 AM
I reviewed all the hands posted and like all the plays. The raises with the suited trouble hands were open-raises from late position when we had a healthy stack. Folding JJ preflop to 2 large reraises is a no-brainer, absolutely guaranteed one of them has KK or AA and a pretty darn good chance both are out.

Perhaps we just disagree on poker strategy. These were good plays IMO. You can customize the bot to play however you want.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Eintracht on December 30, 2012, 11:00:08 AM
I reviewed all the hands posted and like all the plays. The raises with the suited trouble hands were open-raises from late position when we had a healthy stack. Folding JJ preflop to 2 large reraises is a no-brainer, absolutely guaranteed one of them has KK or AA and a pretty darn could chance both are out.

Perhaps we just disagree on poker strategy. These were good plays IMO. You can customize the bot to play however you want.

Where do you see preflop 2 large raises? I was first to act preflop, and the bot just calls the BB instead of raising. IMO JJ is a hand to raise preflop, if no one else made a raise before. Folding it after the flop with A and K in it was right.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: sngbot on December 30, 2012, 02:42:16 PM
It was line 130 that made the bot limp:-

When hand = J J  and bets = 0  and raises = 0  and StillToAct >= 7 call force

As Egor said, these are simply strategy differences. It's not hard to learn PPL and modify the profile. :)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 30, 2012, 06:53:02 PM
You did not clarify the action you were questioning on the JJ hand in your post - after the bot limped from early position there were two large reraises on the preflop betting round (there was no flop in the hand you posted), and then the bot folded. All of which I agree with. Right there is a pretty good example of why limping with JJ in early position (in full 9/10 max tables, anyway) is considered proper strategy by Sklansky and many others (including me).

Here is the hand you posted:

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.7.3: Hand: Jd Jc
Players = 8 have JJ
If calls = 3 or more raise and call or raises, else raise but fold if two raises cold
hands played in session = 48
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 120.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 7355.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v100", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 130, Action = call force
clicking Call
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 2, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 120.00, Pot = 27 BBs, Stack = 7235.00, TI = 1 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v100", Action = fold force
User defined variable UserDead set to true at line 102
Matching user defined condition at line 242, Action = fold force
clicking Fold


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: mrbam073 on January 01, 2013, 01:52:53 PM
what happend
im in bb checked the flop and calld the turn with no chance to anzthing / missclick or bug?

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.7.3: Hand: 9d 6h
Players = 7 Fold
hands played in session = 183
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 4130.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Big Blind
Matching user defined condition at line 88, Action = fold force
clicking Check
Players = 7
Flop: Kd 4h 8h
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 4130.00, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Fold
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 395
clicking Check
Players = 7
Changed game state to TURN
Turn: Kd 4h 8h Jc
Board: No Pair no possible straight two of one suit
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 4130.00, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Fold
clicking Check
Players = 7
Changed game state to TURN
Turn: Kd 4h 8h Jc
Board: No Pair no possible straight two of one suit
special condition rule 7
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 5 BBs, Stack = 4130.00, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Fold or Bet if checked and fold for a raise
clicking Call
Players = 7
River: Kd 4h 8h Jc Kc
Board: Pair no possible straight, no possible flush
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 8 BBs, Stack = 3388.00, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Fold
Default Profile: "Doodle v100", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 887, Action = fold force
clicking Check
(Hand# 4444444) xxxxx won $2,474 with A

 ???


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Fold on January 01, 2013, 05:45:50 PM
it looks like a settings issue ,, the bet was not recorded in the in timer,, please check the hand history replay , zou can and confirm actually what happened

fold


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: mrbam073 on January 01, 2013, 06:58:27 PM
As u wrote - there was a raise on the turn but the bot didnt recognize. I checked the settings. Couldnt find a mistake but the game settings looks diferent to ur holdem manuel. Did u update the manuel in the last weeks? For instance at game setting there are no notifications any more...
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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 01, 2013, 08:56:31 PM
Not a profile issue, start a Help board topic please for 888 troubleshooting.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: cancermoon on February 01, 2013, 08:55:02 AM
I just used this MTT kit with my cash profile and it won me over 50$ , played awesome , better than any of the MTT profiles i have seen playing, the MTT profiles tend to operate on playing tight then going all in on some random rubbish and hoping to get lucky. The times they get lucky they do well, the rest of the time they are useless.

I am wondering if this MTT kit would work for playing SNG games or is there a small tweak i should make to the kit to make it turn a good cash profile into a 1 table sng profile ???

I don't really know enough about profiles or poker to make the tweak myself yet.

Is it possible please ?

: edit I have just read on an older thread that the MTT kit is good for SNG's

Thank you


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on February 01, 2013, 04:22:47 PM
I have actually tweaked it a couple times for SNG's by raising the short stack triggers a little higher.

An example of this is posted at www.bonusbots.com/sng.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/sng.txt)

purely a tweaked kit there, nothing blended, as it is meant to be loaded with the doodle .ppl


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: shoopwhoop on March 22, 2013, 01:05:39 AM
http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt
Is it still valid for the current doodle Version, to use or outdated ?

I really do like the doodle play.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: GreenFish on March 22, 2013, 01:19:50 AM
A OK  thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 22, 2013, 03:31:44 AM
always the current version - if you look carefully, before the flop section, it tells you the version number


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 23, 2013, 10:24:47 PM
Doodle 101 blended with the latest MTT kit is now posted and can be accessed here:

www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Kenchov on March 26, 2013, 08:06:16 PM
Hi guys.

Ive had the bot for a while but not done much however today ive spent all day reading and getting ready to use this.

However im trying to get the MTT on the bit but every time i try and get it to read it says could not find mtt.txt or whatever.txt.

I have copied and pasted and then saved in the data file but seriously im getting nothing up, could someone possibly give me some direction


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 26, 2013, 08:32:35 PM
Start a new Help Board topic please and I will walk you through it there.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: jisooshee on April 17, 2013, 07:51:48 AM
would you recommend using this profile for 9 man SNG super turbo?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 17, 2013, 08:17:49 AM
Probably not. I mean, it will do okay and it may win, but to beat those in the long run you probably want a push/fold profile.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Essexboyz on April 29, 2013, 02:11:44 PM
Going to bring the doodle out the stable for a run but have a quick question. Do you think it would do better on ipoker where they have mainly 1500 starting chips or somewhere like 888 where most tourneys start with 2000-3000+ chips?  dankk2.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: GreenFish on April 29, 2013, 02:15:55 PM
It Runs Good When The Cards Run Good , Regardless of The Site .  thumbsup.gif beer.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Essexboyz on April 29, 2013, 02:32:43 PM
I guess thats true of any profile  thumbsup.gif but I was thinking more about its playing style compared to its starting chips  party0052.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 29, 2013, 04:40:55 PM
deep stack events are always better for a TAG-player  thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Essexboyz on April 29, 2013, 07:36:36 PM
thanks  ;D


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Edit on May 07, 2013, 02:38:24 AM
Hey Egor,

I've been hammering the MTTs with this profile lately, with some pretty good results.  Good job.

I spotted this play, though, which may be worth some consideration.

Code:
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.8.4: Hand: 7h Tc
Players = 8 have T7
if opponents <=2, raise if no calls or raises and fold if re-raised
hands played in session = 119
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 4
casino = xxxxxxxxx, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 3155.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Small Blind
corrected folds = 5
Default Profile: "Doodle v101", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 114, Action = call force
clicking Call
Players = 8
Flop: 8c Jd 3h
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
have inside straight draw
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = xxxxx, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = 3105.00, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 3, position = first
Fold
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 394
clicking Check
Players = 9
Turn: 8c Jd 3h Td
Board: No Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit), two cards needed to make straight
have 2nd top pair
also no betting on the flop
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = xxxxxxxx, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = 3105.00, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 4, position = first
Bet but fold if 1 raise
Default Profile: "Doodle v101", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 695, Action = fold force
clicking Check
Players = 9
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 1, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = xxxxxx, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 6 BBs, Stack = 3105.00, TI = 1 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v101", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 854, Action = call force
clicking Call
Players = 9
River: 8c Jd 3h Td 5s
Board: No Pair possible straight no possible flush, two cards needed to make straight
have 2nd top pair
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = xxxxxxxx, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 7 BBs, Stack = 3005.00, TI = 2 BBs
opponents = 3, position = first
Fold
Matching user defined condition at line 888, Action = call force
clicking Check
Players = 9
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = xxxxxx, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 13 BBs, Stack = 3005.00, TI = 2 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v101", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 952, Action = call force
clicking Call
(Hand# xxxxxxxx) villain won $1,600 with

Line 952 (I've put some returns in to make it easier to read):
Code:
When bets = 1
    and raises = 0
    and BetSize < 34% PotSize
    and not (RaisesOnTurn or OneCardFlushPossible or OneCardStraightPossible or folds >= 1 or HaveTwoPair or HaveSet or HaveFullHouse or HaveQuads or HaveStraight or HaveFlush)
    and (Have2ndTopPair or Have2ndOverPair or HaveTopPair or HaveOverPair)
    and not (calls = 1 and AmountToCall > 5 and AmountToCall > 23% PotSize) call force

Do you think calling on the river here is the right play?  We've got an almost half of the pot sized bet, which has already been called (by something like top pair?) and all we've got is second pair with a rag kicker with straight possibilities on the board.

Previous to the call, we've only invested 2 BBs, so we can get out reasonably scot free.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 07, 2013, 03:08:48 AM
Calling is almost scot-free as well. It was a very small river bet. I hear what you are saying on this, with the calls = 1 and all, but that last set of brackets I think protects us from this line blowing off too many chips on this situation.

Maybe I will tighten that up, though. Thanks for the hand!

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Edit on May 07, 2013, 03:29:51 AM
You're welcome. Keep up the good work.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Edit on May 08, 2013, 04:08:28 PM
Just thought I'd add a note to this thread to say I've had some pretty good results with this profile.

I've played a good 50 MTTs over the past week and a bit, and I'm ~$400 up.  The big cash was with me playing the final table (profile got there unassisted and with a good stack from a 350 man field) and I went on to win it, but I've seen it place 3rd from 150, 6th from 500+ (freeroll) plus make numerous other final tables, totally unassisted.

Great job Egor, this is a classy free profile.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: SevenSamurai on May 15, 2013, 04:31:24 PM
I have used it a few times in some low buy in tournyes. Got first place once, a couple of other cashes. Was chip leader at the bubble but two brutal suckouts cost me. Lastnight though something very odd happened.

I set the bot up a one table, 10 seat sit and go. I went away for a bit, came back and saw I was the first one out. Oh well, I thought , these things happen. Until I looked at the hand history and could not believe what I saw. Even my 10 year old would not have done what the bot did.

First hand of tourney. 1500 starting stack. Blinds 10/20
Me, big blind. Everyone folds to the cut off. Cut off bets 320
Dealer, small blind both fold.
Me, bot, raises to 620.
Cut off shoves, bot calls
I lose.
Now look at the cards.......

Me: 72o, cut off AQo
What???? Making a move like that with the worst starting hand possible? I can understand defending the blind, but in that siuation where a very large bet was made. trying to make a move wiht that hand?Seems prettty questionable.
I think Egor owes me abuy in... lol


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 15, 2013, 05:03:19 PM
Obviously, the profile is not coded to call an all-in raise with 7-2. You had something wrong happening there, something preventing the bot from reading the situation correctly. Had you posted the hand from the bot's session log, perhaps we could see exactly what the problem was. This is not a profile issue.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Edit on May 20, 2013, 02:11:52 AM
Egor, what are your thoughts on this play?

Code:

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.8.7: Hand: 9d 9h
Players = 8 have 99
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. Call in blinds if more calls
hands played in session = 59
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = xxxxxxxx, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 250.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 5667.00, TI = 0 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v101", Action = raisemax force
Matching user defined condition at line 295, Action = raisemax force
clicking MAX
clicking Raise
(Hand# xxxxxxxxx) Hero won $850


The line in question:
Code:
When hand = 9 9
When StackSize < 26  and raises <= 1 RaiseMax force

Seems a little loose, right?

I've seen this a few times and it gets my heart racing, especially when we're UTG!


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 20, 2013, 02:15:59 AM
Tricky hand to play and I am open to suggestions on it. However, I do tend to like that play there.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Edit on May 20, 2013, 05:56:35 AM
I think the BB amount is too high.

I'd be happy with pushing with anything less than around 13-15 BBs, but 26 BB seems too risky as we still have a lot of room to play in the tourney.

According to this paper (http://people.math.sfu.ca/~alspach/comp35/) (see the last table), there's an 18.5% chance of someone having a higher pair than 9s pre-flop, so 1 in 5 times we'll probably be called as a 4 to 1 dog, not to mention being called with two overs and facing a 50-50 race.

I'm not worried if you change it or not, I can just change it on my version. Just thought I'd bring it up to see what you thought.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 20, 2013, 06:18:04 AM
Well this is the most interesting situation anyone has posted in a long time, so I thank you for it. Food for thought, anyway. What's most interesting is that it is actually from the Doodle, not from the MTT Kit. Kind of a short-stack cash game play. I would have to write in a new line in the MTT Kit to overwrite it, being as I think it belongs in the Doodle as a cash game tactic (even though the Doodle is best played topped-up).

How else to play it is the question. I guess just set-mine with it early and open-raise mid to late. I kind of hate to blow off 3 BB's in middle position though and then a flop C-bet of probably 5 BB's and then have to abandon the hand after being called. That takes our stack of say 23 BB's down to 15 quickly and unnecessarily. I might just prefer the race / fold equity.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Edit on May 20, 2013, 07:33:30 AM
You're welcome.

Yeah, even set mine right up until late position then open-raise.

I'd even be happy with a min-raise on the button and only c-bet with a dry flop.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Edit on May 21, 2013, 02:05:24 PM
Egor, here's another interesting one for your consideration.

Code:
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.8.7: Hand: 6d 6c
Players = 7 have 66
raise if opponents left <= 4 and no calls
If calls = 2 or more and raises = 0, call but fold for 2 raises cold
If raises = 1 or more and calls = 3+, call and call all raises
If raises = 1 or more and calls = 2 or less, fold
defend blinds
hands played in session = 97
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = xxxxxxxxx, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 1600.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 28340.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Small Blind
Matching user defined condition at line 89, Action = fold force
clicking Fold
(Hand# xxxxxxxxx) Villian won $3,680

Line in question:

Code:
When ( hand = 2 2  or hand = 3 3  or hand = 4 4  or hand = 5 5  or hand = 6 6 )  and StackSize > 9  and StackSize < 20  and not ( TotalInvested > 75% StackSize ) fold force

I think this is worth a raise to steal a blind since we're in the SB and it's an unopened pot, don't you?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 21, 2013, 05:08:16 PM
No. This is an answer to the same basic problem as your 99 hand when we hold a medium-sized stack that is beginning to get a bit on the low side. The stack isn't low enough to justify pushing with small pairs as we can still wait for big ones and AK. If you make a normal opening raise + C-bet and get called on the flop (without hitting a set) you just blew off 8 BB's and turned your marginally-medium stack into a short one by messing around with a small pair. During this critical stack stage, I have decided not to even play small pairs at all, rather to try to wait for premium hands.

For the same reasons, I have decided not to adjust the 99 hand either. That one I do like pushing with during this stage. You have to get lucky a few times in races in order to win a tournament and the hand has quite a bit more value than the smaller pairs; it is a favorite over AK, plus some bad players will race you with smaller pocket pairs. It solves the problem of committing 1/3 of your stack or more and then folding; just push with it and no more guessing.

I'm not saying this is the only good way to play, but it is one good way, my way, and this profile has made lots of top-3 finishes playing this way. IMO changing the way these pocket pairs are played (with these stack sizes)  is not an obvious improvement, just a different approach, and a legit one at that -- but I am sticking with the tried and true here.

Thanks for the hands!


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Edit on May 21, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
Fair enough, thanks for the explanation.

I think I'll leave it as-is too, I seem to be getting some good results with it the way it is!


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Edit on May 22, 2013, 12:34:54 PM
Egor, one more small pocket pair question for you.

Code:
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 6.8.7: Hand: 7s 7h
Players = 8 have 77
Fold if raises and less calls, raise if opponents left <= 5 but fold if 2+ raises cold
Defend Blinds
hands played in session = 30
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 5, raises = 2, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 5
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 7 BBs, Stack = 10995.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Small Blind
Fold if raises and less calls, raise if opponents left <= 5 but fold if 2+ raises cold
Defend Blinds
Fold
Calling because of Mining For Set option
clicking Call
Players = 8
Flop: 2h 4s 4d
Board: pair with 3 suits
have any two pairs
also board pair < 77
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = xxxxxxxxx, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 300.00, Pot = 10 BBs, Stack = 10245.00, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 2, position = first
Bet but fold if 1 raise
Default Profile: "Doodle v101", Action = betpot force
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 394
Matching user defined condition at line 573, Action = betpot force
clicking POT
clicking Bet

Line:
Code:
When ( board = 5 5  or board = 4 4  or board = 3 3  or board = 2 2 )  and not ( TripsOnBoard  or opponents >= 3 )  and HaveOverPair
When bets = 0  and raises = 0 BetPot force

I jumped in here and stopped the bot betting the pot, which was 3k, a third of our stack.

Here we've got a raise preflop, and a re-raise which we've called to set-mine.  In a normal situation I'd put at least one of our opponents on a higher pocket pair about 50% of the time, maybe more.  Betting the pot here is asking to be raised all-in, right?  Which if we call we're crushed and if we fold we're crippled.

In the hand above, one opponent had JJ and another AK.

Maybe we can bet the pot only if we're JJ or better?  Or only bet the pot when we're last to act?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 22, 2013, 05:00:40 PM
Very interesting hand. I don't even like calling preflop against two raises. The set mining is supposed to be up to 6 BB's with that hand but the small blind counts as a full BB for the bot.

Then on the flop, of course, it's stack suicide to make that bet. Like you said, against one raiser fine.

I will make some changes based on this, thanks. They may have to be made to the Doodle. Not sure; I will figure it out.

Keep them coming, please.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: hokeypokey888 on June 02, 2013, 10:54:23 AM
hi, i just d/l bot and have used the mtt profile that was noted with the first download.

is this kit the same profile add-on or is it updated or tweaked in any way?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on June 02, 2013, 06:37:29 PM
The kit is in the first post of this thread and includes instructions for blending it with any other text profile. The idea is to turn a cash game profile into a tournament profile. The kit can also be used by itself to modify a .ppl format profile.

The kit has already been blended with the Doodle profile in text form, however, and is posted here: www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on June 14, 2013, 07:20:30 AM
Latest update of Nov 30 MTT Kit + Doodle 102 is posted:

www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: superbot on June 25, 2013, 06:56:29 PM
@Egor

This MTT profile looks great. Tried it yesterday in a $5
MTT. It came in 10th unassisted, with a winning of more
than 3 times the buyin.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: superbot on July 15, 2013, 01:51:25 PM
@ Egor

Just saw these two lines in the above conversion kit.

129  When hand = T T  and bets = 0  and raises = 0  and StillToAct >= 6 call force
130  When hand = J J  and bets = 0  and raises = 0  and StillToAct >= 7 call force

They are from postflop, so I was wondering why bets are used here. Should it
have been calls instead ?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on July 15, 2013, 04:38:25 PM
I am not finding those lines in the conversion kit (in the first post iof this thread).

Are you sure they aren't from the Doodle?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: superbot on July 15, 2013, 06:16:25 PM
They are from this post:

Latest update of Nov 30 MTT Kit + Doodle 102 is posted:

www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

but anyway there are no bets preflop right?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on July 16, 2013, 01:40:02 AM
it's not from the kit but from the doodle blend

bets always = 0 preflop anyway


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Royal on September 13, 2013, 06:21:18 AM
With a little over 10BB this is not the correct play.  Using your latest MTT Kit posted a page back.  Obviously it is the default coding but even so...

Thoughts?

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.1.8: Hand: Js Jd
Players = 7 have JJ
If calls = 3 or more raise and call or raises, else raise but fold if two raises cold
hands played in session = 35
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 5, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 5
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 150.00, Pot = 14 BBs, Stack = 1675.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Small Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle v103", Action = fold force
User defined variable UserDead set to true at line 131
Matching user defined condition at line 293, Action = fold force
clicking Fold
(Hand# 561472699) **** won $375


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 13, 2013, 07:19:22 AM
At 9 BB's or under the MTT Kit pushes there. It's a near-100% certain call if we do in this spot. Is it time to gamble on a coin-flip here? I can see arguments both ways. There have been prior posts in which people state they think the threshold should be 14 BB's and under not 9 BB's and under for this gamble. Personally, I like that threshold for 1-table SNG's but for MTT's I have had better luck going with 9. Seems you were just above the threshold here which is always a debatable area.

I should point out this is when an opponent has already raised. Obviously, raises = 0 is an entirely different situation.

Thanks for the hand!


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: ykcip75 on September 29, 2013, 07:39:01 AM
I think you should replace this :

not (hand = 23 or hand = 24 or hand = 25 or hand = 26 or hand = 27 or hand = 29 or hand = 2T or hand = 37 or hand = 38 or hand = 39 or hand = 3T or hand = 49 or hand = 4T)

by this :

not (hand = 23 or hand = 24 or hand = 25 or hand = 26 or hand = 27 or hand = 28 or  hand = 29 or hand = 2T or hand = 37 or hand = 38 or hand = 39 or hand = 3T or hand = 49 or hand = 4T)  :)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 29, 2013, 01:57:34 PM
thanks for the catch  thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: jats on October 15, 2013, 06:10:25 PM
I have a little dude... ???

Line 131: When opponentisallin UserDead

Line 495: When Opponentisallin and (not UserDead) UserDead2

Line: 812: When Opponentisallin and not (UserDead or UserDead2) UserDead3

Well... if I change the variables...

Correct line? : When Opponentisallin and not ((Opponentisallin) or (Opponentisallin and (not Opponentisallin) UserDead3

This is correct???


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on October 15, 2013, 06:44:35 PM
No, not correct.

Please start a new PPL Board topic and explain what you are wanting to accomplish. We will help you there.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Essexboyz on October 30, 2013, 08:55:44 AM
HI Egor
Do you agree with this fold?


Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.2.3: Hand: Jd Js
Players = 6 have JJ
If calls = 3 or more raise and call or raises, else raise but fold if two raises cold
hands played in session = 1
in timer: players = 6, folds in game= 3, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 3
casino = EverestPoker, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 30.00, Pot = 10 BBs, Stack = 1380.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Big Blind
If calls = 3 or more raise and call or raises, else raise but fold if two raises cold
play but fold if 2 raises cold
Play
clicking Call
Flop: Td Ah Ac
Board: pair with 3 suits
have two pairs including 3rd best possible non board pair
in timer: players = 6, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = EverestPoker, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 30.00, Pot = 16 BBs, Stack = 1290.00, TI = 4 BBs
opponents = 3, position = first
Fold
Default Profile: "Doodle v103", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 482, Action = fold force
clicking Check
Turn: Td Ah Ac Ad
Board: 3 of a kind
have 3rd best full house.
in timer: players = 6, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = EverestPoker, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 30.00, Pot = 16 BBs, Stack = 1290.00, TI = 4 BBs
opponents = 3, position = first
Play if no Raises but Bet in last position and call one raise
clicking Check
in timer: players = 6, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = EverestPoker, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 30.00, Pot = 28 BBs, Stack = 1290.00, TI = 4 BBs
clicking Call
River: Td Ah Ac Ad Ts
Board: full house
have full house bigger than that present on board
in timer: players = 6, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = EverestPoker, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 30.00, Pot = 32 BBs, Stack = 1170.00, TI = 8 BBs
opponents = 3, position = first
Raise if no raises, Call if 1 raise else Fold
Default Profile: "Doodle v103", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 1316, Action = call force
clicking Check
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 4, raises = 1, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = EverestPoker, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 30.00, Pot = 48 BBs, Stack = 1170.00, TI = 8 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v103", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 1322, Action = fold force
clicking Fold

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on October 30, 2013, 09:19:07 AM
because of the raise I think I do, actually - the original bettor can still raise again and this could be throwing chips away

I can certainly see calling there as well

close call really


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Essexboyz on October 30, 2013, 04:05:05 PM
okay, fair enough,  dankk2.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: bestinthewest on December 17, 2013, 03:00:32 AM
Why would we fold here when it was only 60 more chips to call to see if we river the nut flush or inside straight draw?

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.2.6: Hand: As 8s
Players = 8 have A8 suited
Fold if raises and less calls, raise if opponents left <= 3 fold if 2+ raises cold
Defend Blinds
hands played in session = 3
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 2, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 2
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 20.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 3000.00, TI = 0 BBs
Play if no raise
clicking Call
Flop: 9c 5s Kc
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 20.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 2980.00, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 2, position = first
Fold
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 496
clicking Check
Turn: 9c 5s Kc 6s
Board: No Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit), two cards needed to make straight
have flush draw
also have inside straight draw
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 20.00, Pot = 6 BBs, Stack = 2980.00, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Bet
Default Profile: "Doodle v103", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 815, Action = fold force
clicking Fold


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: bestinthewest on December 17, 2013, 03:11:15 AM
Also would like your opinion on this one...I'm button with pocket pairs and it folds all the way around to me and we fold to the blinds?

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.2.6: Hand: 6c 6d
Players = 8 have 66
raise if opponents left <= 4 and no calls
If calls = 2 or more and raises = 0, call but fold for 2 raises cold
If raises = 1 or more and calls = 3+, call and call all raises
If raises = 1 or more and calls = 2 or less, fold
defend blinds
hands played in session = 13
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 2795.00, TI = 0 BBs
In Button
Matching user defined condition at line 115, Action = fold force
clicking Fold


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 17, 2013, 04:57:38 AM
I agree with you on the A8 hand. Technically, it was a pot-sized bet the opponent made so the bot folded because of the relative bet size. But with such a big stack, the implied odds clearly indicate a call to such a small absolute bet size. I will do something about this in the next version.
dankk2.gif

The 66 fold was a different situation. If you read the codeline responsible:

When (hand = 22 or hand = 33 or hand = 44 or hand = 55 or hand = 66) and stacksize > 9 and stacksize < 20 and not (totalinvested > 75% stacksize) fold force

...you can see it is a stack management play. This is from the MTT Kit and I happen to agree with it. We start pushing with those small pairs when we get below 9 big blinds, and we play it regularly (min-raise) with over 20 big blinds. At this critical juncture I think it's better to fold and wait for better hands or a more desperate spot.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Avatar on December 17, 2013, 11:29:09 AM
For me 66 here I push


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: bestinthewest on December 18, 2013, 02:11:09 AM
Tks for the input guys....looking forward to the next version Egor.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: wildcaught on December 31, 2013, 05:24:07 PM
Sorry if this has been asked and answered already.  But is there specific heads up coding in the mtt profile? Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 31, 2013, 09:19:54 PM
Yes - both in the MTT Kit and also in the Doodle itself.  thumbsup.gif

This profile can finish a tournament and has taken some 1sts in large-fields completely unassisted.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: wildcaught on December 31, 2013, 10:57:18 PM
Awesome, good to know. Thanks and Happy New Year to you and all.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 20, 2014, 07:59:40 AM
Updated with Doodle 104.

Link: www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

See Doodle thread for change log.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: bbpokepeek on February 07, 2014, 10:26:16 AM
Updated with Doodle 104.

Link: www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

See Doodle thread for change log.

Thanks Egor :)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Autobot420 on February 24, 2014, 06:20:47 PM
Yes - both in the MTT Kit and also in the Doodle itself.  thumbsup.gif

This profile can finish a tournament and has taken some 1sts in large-fields completely unassisted.
I ran a session of 8 45 man MTT's yesterday with the most current version of DoodleMTT and I was very very impressed :o
The profile made 6 final tables and bubbled once as well!  DoodleMTT took 2 - 2nds  1 - 3rd   2 -4th and  1 - 5th place!  party0007.gif
I plan on doing another all day session next weekend with the profile.The tables are juicy on the weekends I have noticed!Lose money during the week and make it all back on the weekends 2 weeks in a row now lol! All I know is this profile should probably be in the Marketplace section of this forum but am so glad it is not!It is that good. Thanks Egor good stuff! thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Killer-Skies on March 01, 2014, 09:12:50 PM
I just wanted to comment that since purchasing this bot, I have tried a good number of profiles.

With the DoodleMTT I have played regular 27-mans and larger field Guaranteed tournaments, probably around 30 is the amount of tournaments I've played with it.  Not much I know but still.

I'd say out of those 30, I've made the final table or won 12 of them.  This profile is good and it's better than many on the marketplace I reckon.  Only reason I say that is because the graphs posted in the marketplace are very similar to what DoodleMTT could do, if not better.

I would post a graph but I don't use HEM when botting as sometimes it creates interference.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: irobot on March 09, 2014, 10:46:53 AM
line 378: When BotsLastAction = raise  and BetSize < 6 call force

This makes this doodle conversion kit not useable for 888 anymore?

btw;  this is not the only (second orbit) Betsize variable in this MTT conversion kit.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 09, 2014, 04:59:09 PM
No. That's fine. Betsize is still a valid variable at 888.

Edit: I will try to get clarification on the exact scenarios to be concerned about at 888. Maybe I will need to update this.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: 77pockets on April 03, 2014, 06:36:04 PM
why when i change bet flop size to 60% it does still betting 100%?

playing on 888

already tried to write, load, write

never works


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 03, 2014, 07:05:48 PM
I answered this by email.

Please, support forum or email support, but choose only one for the same question.  beer.gif

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: 77pockets on April 03, 2014, 07:14:37 PM
thanks Egor  party0007.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: bbpokepeek on April 09, 2014, 10:41:53 PM
Updated with Doodle 104.

Link: www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

See Doodle thread for change log.

Someone mentioned this in a thread about a modified version of mtt.txt but this occurs in the official mtt.txt too. In about the 13th and 16th lines of the preflop, is this hand=28 missing?

When opponentsattable = 1 and stacksize < 10 and calls = 0 and raises = 0 and not (hand = 23 or hand = 24 or hand = 25 or hand = 26 or hand = 27 or hand = 28 or hand = 29 or hand = 2T or hand = 37 or hand = 38 or hand = 39 or hand = 3T or hand = 49 or hand = 4T) raisemax force


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 09, 2014, 10:53:25 PM
Probably. No big deal if we add that one in really. Less than 10 BB's and it's pretty much desperation pushing time playing heads up (for 1st and 2nd place).


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: agc1984 on April 10, 2014, 07:17:17 AM
Can I use this profile to play 9 man sngs?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 10, 2014, 07:38:16 AM
Yes but I would probably loosen the pushing threshold just a bit.



Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: dreamjob on May 13, 2014, 07:54:56 PM
I have the latest version of the mtt profile. I get this message am I the only one who gets this when it reads it?

Warning:Line 49 in Profile mtt.txt ignored.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 13, 2014, 10:51:41 PM
It's because one of the option settings no longer exists. You can safely ignore that message. I really should remove that line from the profile.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: dreamjob on May 14, 2014, 01:13:19 AM
Thanks Egor! thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mrphil on October 21, 2014, 10:32:06 PM
Maybe I'm a fish for doing this, but with a top pair, open ended straight draw, a flush draw, and looking at the relative size of our stack, I would call here on the turn.

This is using doodle MTT conversion.

Code:
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.6.4: Hand: Qc Tc
Players = 7 have QT suited
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. + modified instructions2
hands played in session = 96
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 2, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 2
casino = Blackchip, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 3473.00, TI = 0 BBs
Play if no raise
clicking Call
Flop: Qs 3h Jc
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
have top pair
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Blackchip, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = 3473.00, TI = 1 BBs
opponents = 3, position = first
Play if no raise
Default Profile: "Doodle 104", Action = bet 50% force
Matching user defined condition at line 633, Action = bet 50% force
typing 200
clicking Bet
Turn: Qs 3h Jc 9c
Board: No Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit), two cards needed to make straight
have top pair
also have flush draw
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Blackchip, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 8 BBs, Stack = 3473.00, TI = 3 BBs
opponents = 2, position = first
Bet
typing 600
clicking Bet
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 5, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Blackchip, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 44 BBs, Stack = 3473.00, TI = 9 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle 104", Action = fold force
User defined variable UserDead3 set to true at line 812
Matching user defined condition at line 865, Action = fold force
clicking Fold


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: superbot on October 23, 2014, 01:06:51 PM
For a long time I have tested different profiles in freeroll MTT.
And I'm sad to say that the results were not good.

Last week I downloaded Egor's MTT Conversion Kit in the
new version. After playing 4 freerolls the result was in the
money 3 times. Of cause 4 tournaments doesn't prove
anything, but it was a good start.

Thanks Egor  anim_37.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Kenchov on November 01, 2014, 01:19:44 AM
Getting conflicting answers around . Can some be so kind point me in the direction of most recent MTT


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 01, 2014, 03:16:19 AM
it's always at www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Kenchov on November 01, 2014, 07:58:12 PM
Thanks alot


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Kenchov on November 01, 2014, 09:18:48 PM
loaded up the MTT.

The bot is saying

READING CUSTOMIZATIONS
profile read from mtt.txt

Sorry for the silly question. But does that mean that the bot has read the profile and is ready to use?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Stealth8 on November 01, 2014, 11:03:18 PM
Yes it does. Play on.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Kenchov on November 01, 2014, 11:37:38 PM
Thank you very much..


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mrphil on November 28, 2014, 04:37:10 AM
Egor, would it be possible to convert the doodlemtt to a .ppl for us to use?

I say this because we have a good cash game "catch-all" with doodle, but I would like it if we also had the option of having the doodlemtt profile as a .ppl as well so we can have a good mtt "catch-all".

Would it be hard to post a .ppl conversion on the front page of this thread?

 dankk2.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 28, 2014, 05:03:41 AM
It wouldn't be difficult for me to make that, no. Think I'll wait for the pending Doodle update to be done, though.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 01, 2014, 05:54:20 AM
Doodle 105 + MTT Kit now posted at www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

By request a .ppl version is also available here: www.bonusbots.com/mttppl.zip (http://www.bonusbots.com/mttppl.zip)

...if using the .ppl version you will also need to load a text profile of the option menu settings, here: www.bonusbots.com/mttoptions.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mttoptions.txt)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Stealth8 on December 02, 2014, 02:47:09 AM
This line here I think needs changed. It is calling raise with more then one person in hand and there was even a possible flush on board on turn and it still calls here with more then one player in hand. I mean I only had low pair and it was calling here and just leaking chips for no reason with more then one player in hand. I mean if it was only one player I don't mind here with the size of the bets but with 2 players and one raising and one calling and with a flush possible on board something isn't right there and we don't need to be wasting chips calling here. Also it called the same bet on river so it wasted almost 1g in chips. Maybe keep the line but add Opponents = 1 to it. I'll post the line first then the line I would think would be better. Let me know what you think EGOR... This is the code line in the newly released Doodle MTT...

When  AmountToCall < 20% PotSize  and HavePair  and not ( HaveSet  or HaveTrips  or HaveTwoPair  or HaveTopPair  or HaveOverPair ) call force

Here is what I think would be better if you are going to make that play here.. Better chance of winning hand and not just giving chips away.

When Opponents = 1 and AmountToCall < 20% PotSize  and HavePair  and not ( HaveSet  or HaveTrips  or HaveTwoPair  or HaveTopPair  or HaveOverPair ) call force


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Stealth8 on December 02, 2014, 02:53:50 AM
Maybe even keep the line but add something like this... Add to NOT( FlushPossible and StraightPossible

When Opponents >= 2 and AmountToCall < 20% PotSize  and HavePair  and not ( FlushPossible or StraightPossible or HaveSet  or HaveTrips  or HaveTwoPair  or HaveTopPair  or HaveOverPair ) call force


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 02, 2014, 03:11:21 AM
It all sounds good but I really need to see an example from the bot-log.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Stealth8 on December 02, 2014, 03:15:29 AM
Sorry EGOR but I already started a new bot after that game was over so I don't have the log...


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: balten on January 14, 2015, 05:07:36 AM
Hi,

Like someone already asked but when i had read the profile i get the notice of profile read from mtt.txt and all modifications but why does some hans of the tourney says:

casino=888, game =xxx
Default profile "Doodlev105", Action= fold force

Doesnt this still means bot running doodle instead of MTT profile?

It seems like it goes back to doodle evry hand, why?

Please help.

Regards

Simon


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: superbot on January 14, 2015, 05:16:18 AM
The MTT version is a tweak of Doodle 105. So if the MTT
lines doesn't find a match it will play like Doodle 105.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 14, 2015, 06:04:36 AM
If you get a message that the profile loads then it stays loaded. Please note the default profile is still in the background and still tells you what it WOULD do in many situations before the custom profile is even read. However when you see "user defined condition" being executed that is from the text profile. Also many profiles do defer some actions to the default profile.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Melvic on January 14, 2015, 07:02:48 PM
I've been using this profile a few days and would need some tips.

This far I have used it for 38 MTT tournaments, and cashed in on none.
The bot seems to play solid poker, so Im not complaning. I know MTT needs a large volume and variance is huge.

However, I would need help with table selection.
This far Ive used it on $2-5 tournaments, and they have been everything from freezouts, to turbo, to rebuy, to 2A1R to Speed to you name it...

I dare guess this is not the opimal use of the bot's capabilities? What kind of table selection would you recommend for latest doodle with mtt.txt loaded in order to increase chances?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 14, 2015, 07:23:54 PM
That's a pretty bad run, so I would make sure the bot is reading everything correctly and taking good actions.

I think the best events are large-field freeze-outs. The larger the better. No rebuys.

Other than that I'll look for guaranteed events (freeze-outs) where the number of entries looks like it will be short (not enough to cover the guarantee). These are tricky because you have to do a very late registration, and there are many large stacks by that time -- but still worth entering for the overlay!

On the rare occasion I play a rebuy event I make an immediate rebuy if allowed (so I get a double-stack) and then sit the entire first hour out, then make the add-on, and then start the bot. You'll have a slightly lower-than-average stack when you start, but the fact that 20-25% of the field is already eliminated more than makes up for this.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Melvic on January 14, 2015, 07:49:51 PM
Thanks Egor.

The bot seems to be reading the tables allright. No unknown stacks or other missing variables and no weird plays.
The main reason Im using a bot is because I am extremely unlucky with everything involving chance, and
I figured maybe if a bot played I wouldnt be affected by my extremely bad luck. But it wasnt immune... So 38 MTT downswing is nothing for me :)

I have a question though: Why sit out the entire first hour of a rebuy tournament? Wouldnt it be better to put the bot to play super tight poker and double up on the wild bills once it gets AA, KK? Its basically the same as sitting out, but waking up when it gets a premium hand?

Also, is it worth joining freezout tournaments late.. so maybe avg stack is 6000 and you start with 3000?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 14, 2015, 08:15:24 PM
I think a large-field freezeout is better to join early, as long as you know it will be big.

I don't believe in luck as a forward-working factor. It is only observable from a rear view.

My method for working rebuy events attempts to secure an edge (20-25% of the field already eliminated when I start, and my stack only being slightly lower than average, usually about 10% under -- that's an overlay). It isn't the only method, but it's the one I like the best. I want a mathematical edge over the rest of the crowd, other than assuming I will play better than average, so I can't do the same thing they all do. My second favorite method would be to make one buy-in only, no more, start the bot at the beginning and let the chips fall as they may. No rebuys, no add-on. This works because your average cost to play is much less than your opponents, and I've seen crippled stacks come back and win events more times than I can count.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Melvic on January 16, 2015, 05:35:50 PM
Does the bot understand when its approaching bubble etc, or should I manually adjust the "tighter play settings" etc as the tournament progresses?

Im a bit unsure if I should interact with the bot in any way, or just leave it to its own from tournament start to finish.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 16, 2015, 06:15:53 PM
Whatever you do, you will probably second guess yourself. Personally I believe in looser play at the bubble. The losing crowd plays tighter at the bubble, and I can't be one of them.

I like to take over at the final table if I'm there. But there have been times I wish I didn't, because the bot would have folded hands I chose to go out with.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Tynesider on March 01, 2015, 06:55:48 PM
Been using the mtt.txt with the doodle ppl for several mutli-table tournaments

Some of its play seems very strange. For example...

It raised 400 with top pair after the flop. Only 1 other hand left in. The other hand had just enough chips to call and raised another measley 100 (in 1000+ pot)...the bot then folded!

I understand that may mean I need to tweak some of the options but it seemed something so basic that I would have already presumed it would have called such a desperate short stack.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 01, 2015, 07:09:02 PM
This profile will never fold for a tiny raise so make sure your bot is reading everything correctly and start a new Help Board topic if you suspect otherwise.

You should post the hand in question from the bot's session log when reporting suspicious plays, not recount them from memory. The bot records every hand played showing exactly what it saw and quotes a reason for every action taken. Seeing the bot's log of the hand is the only way i can tell if the action was intentionally performed by the profile or the result of a technical glitch.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Tynesider on March 01, 2015, 07:25:44 PM
In which case, maybe there is a problem with the way I have set things up. I forgot to save the directions given. I don't suppose there is any way of getting them back up now?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 01, 2015, 07:37:31 PM
The log is always overwritten with the last session.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 16, 2015, 04:57:18 AM
Doodle 106 + MTT Kit now available:

www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

A .ppl version is also available here: www.bonusbots.com/mttppl.zip (http://www.bonusbots.com/mttppl.zip)

...if using the .ppl version you will also need to load a text profile of the option menu settings, here: www.bonusbots.com/mttoptions.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mttoptions.txt)

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Stealth8 on April 09, 2015, 01:33:56 AM
EGOR, I got a question is the MTT 106 flop the upated 106 flop because in the 106 doodle flop for cash is different at least at the start of the flop code??? Just curious.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 09, 2015, 02:11:07 AM
I don't think you understand how the MTT Kit works. Read the first post of this thread and you'll understand.  thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: SunDevilMan on June 26, 2015, 02:32:02 AM
On the rare occasion I play a rebuy event I make an immediate rebuy if allowed (so I get a double-stack) and then sit the entire first hour out, [snip]

Why would you just not enter right before the rebuy (registration) period ends saving yourself an hour's worth of blinds?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on June 26, 2015, 02:53:38 AM
I suppose that would work even better at sites that allow this, as long as you can get an initial double-stack and then a full add-on stack.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: SunDevilMan on June 26, 2015, 03:10:08 AM
Every regular and re-buy tournament I have ever played allowed you to enter up until registration closes (and in re-buy tournaments, that includes you being able to 'double your stack' and make an add-on), I don't understand the sitting out for an hour thing.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on July 06, 2015, 12:10:18 AM
Doodle 107 + MTT Kit now available:

www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

A .ppl version is also available here: www.bonusbots.com/mttppl.zip (http://www.bonusbots.com/mttppl.zip)

...if using the .ppl version you will also need to load a text profile of the option menu settings, here: www.bonusbots.com/mttoptions.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mttoptions.txt)

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: bestinthewest on August 13, 2015, 02:56:51 AM
Hi Egor,

What do you think about this play?  Seemed a bit early to just put it all in even though I registered late.

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.8.4: Hand: 9s Ad
Players = 7 have A9
Fold if any raise, raise if opponents left <= 3 and no calls or calls and no folds else call
hands played in session = 1
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 5
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 150.00, Pot = 32 BBs, Stack = 2850.00, TI = 7 BBs
Amount To Call = -6 BBs
Raise
clicking All In


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on August 13, 2015, 03:26:04 AM
I don't hate the play with 19 BB's and a less than full table when raises = 0 and calls = 0.

But your amounttocall was read as a negative figure, and your TI figure was read as 7. That's obviously wrong.

And no codeline was quoted. Were you using the .ppl version ?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: bestinthewest on August 13, 2015, 05:48:16 AM
Yes, it was the first time I was trying out the ppl version.  Not sure why that would make a difference but I am going back to the txt version.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on August 13, 2015, 07:38:58 AM
You may as well use the text version -- it has the correct option settings included, plus it will quote codelines if you want to post hands here.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: daniella807 on August 13, 2015, 12:56:32 PM
yeah love the profile came 3rd todayyyyy  party0007.gif party0007.gif anim_37.gif..


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Annettelol on August 18, 2015, 05:08:25 AM
Could you tell me if this is a standard play or a configuration problem?


Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.8.4: Hand: Qc Ad
Players = 8 have AQ
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. Call in blinds if more calls
hands played in session = 20
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 150.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 1270.00, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 1 BBs
play but fold if 2 raises cold
Play
clicking Call
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 5, bets = 0, folds = 5
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 150.00, Pot = 16 BBs, Stack = 1120.00, TI = 1 BBs
Amount To Call = 5 BBs
Play
changing action to Fold because of Raise > 10 big blinds
clicking Fold

https://gyazo.com/cc3d3e5b5295850f2fbaa025360ee46b
https://gyazo.com/102626dbf8ed070059a2a56757d54151


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on August 18, 2015, 05:28:03 AM
It looks to me like you didn't have this profile loaded, as line 76:

When StackSize <= 9 and (hand = A suited or hand = AK or hand = AQ or hand = KQ or hand = QJ suited or hand = JT suited or pairinhand) raisemax force

...would have pushed there preflop. Make sure you are getting a confirmation message that the profile is read.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Annettelol on August 18, 2015, 04:21:25 PM
I seem to be getting a bug on Bodog.  When the bot wants to call an all-in, it doesn't find the button and then times out/folds instead of calling.

Usually, the buttons are in this order :

fold call raise

But when you face an all-in bet, it goes :

fold *blank spot* all-in

I believe the bot tries to click on the blank spot to call.

https://gyazo.com/4a5662e43d7606e45aac1873b24a4f69

This is an example


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Poker8 on August 18, 2015, 04:43:40 PM
There seems to be a problem there as you say the bot was to call an all-in raise and the bot log shows raises = 0, bets = 0, and also shows Amount To Call = 0 BBs. I have been having the same issue and can't figure out what is causing it. ???


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on August 18, 2015, 06:03:31 PM
Bodog/Bovada Troubleshooting
 
Our bot uses a different technology (OCR) to play at Bodog and Bovada than it uses at our other supported poker rooms. It is much more sensitive to display issues here, because it reads all the necessary information from the screen. It is, therefore, also much more prone to interference issues from other programs running here as well. We find that most customers are able to get the bot working properly here by taking the following steps:
 
*The systems that seem to do well have good graphics cards and good PC monitors (but only one). Non-PC monitors such as HD televisions will probably cause problems, as will external monitors connected to laptops, and additional monitors connected to desktop PCs. If you are using a dual monitor please disable it completely and use only the first monitor. Similarly, if using a laptop do not attempt to use an external monitor -- use the laptop screen.
 
*Double-check your Bodog/Bovada settings to make sure they match with the ones listed Holdem Bot User Manual, make sure no other software is running/open when the bot plays (including web browsers, Teamviewer, etc), and minimize the lobby.
 
*Check that your screen saver is disabled and that your power settings don't try and dim or turn off the display. Try to keep windows, AV programs, Java, and other programs from updating themselves automatically.
 
*If you are using a laptop, don't run it off the battery and make sure it's always running in "high performance" mode.
 
*The more tables you play the more likely you are to have problems. Keep the table edges away from the edge of the screen.
 
*Your windows language must be set to English/US and you must always start the poker room software to run as administrator
 
*We've had many customers solve their Bodog/Bovada problems by changing their windows theme to "classic" and running both the poker room and the bot in "XP compatibility mode service pack 3"
 
*Finally, you can try playing with your resolution setting and see if you find one that works better.
 
Unfortunately, if all this fails you may have to play at a different poker site, or use a different PC. There are some PC's which the bot seems to be unable to read the screen info from, and/or find the betting buttons, even when all the above has been followed. These are usually weaker-spec computers running older operating systems, weaker graphics cards, or are incapable of a good high-res screen resolution for whatever reason (an example would be one of those little "netbook" style computers with a small screen and a weak graphics card).


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 07, 2015, 03:57:56 AM
Doodle 108 + MTT Kit now available:

www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

A .ppl version is also available here: www.bonusbots.com/mttppl.zip (http://www.bonusbots.com/mttppl.zip)

...if using the .ppl version you will also need to load a text profile of the option menu settings, here: www.bonusbots.com/mttoptions.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mttoptions.txt)

 robot.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: e3feiaro on September 07, 2015, 05:36:30 AM
Hi Egor,
I was wondering if you could look at two hands from a tourney today. I played this tourney before the new version was posted today, so I'm not sure if these codes have already been dealt with. If so, my apologies:

Hand: 1
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.8.7: Hand: Ks Ac
Players = 8 have AK
Raise if no raises but fold if 2 raises cold else play
hands played in session = 44
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 5, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 5
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 150.00, Pot = 8 BBs, Stack = 9609.00, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 2 BBs
In Small Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle v107", Action = raisepot force
User defined variable UserEarlyRaiser set to true at line 123
clicking POT
clicking Raise
Players = 8
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 5, raises = 2, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 5
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 150.00, Pot = 41 BBs, Stack = 7554.00, TI = 14 BBs
Amount To Call = 5 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v107", Action = fold force
User defined variable UserDead set to true at line 126
Matching user defined condition at line 336, Action = fold force
Fold

Line 328: When hand = A K
Line 336:   when StackSize > 35  and raises >= 2  and ( not hand = A K suited )  and BetSize > 15 fold force

Player is all in and we needed 14% equity to make the call with AK and we fold banghead.gif
Perhaps the line needs "OpponentIsAllIn", "AmountToCall % Potsize", and "Opponents = 1" codes?

Hand: 2
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.8.7: Hand: Qh Qd
Players = 8 have QQ
Raise
hands played in session = 33
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = 6200.00, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 2 BBs
In Small Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle v107", Action = call force
User defined variable UserEarlyRaiser set to true at line 123
Matching user defined condition at line 185, Action = call force
clicking Call
Players = 8
Flop: Kh Qc 8s
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
have any set
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 5 BBs, Stack = 6050.00, TI = 1 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Raise
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 497
clicking POT
clicking Bet
Players = 8
Turn: Kh Qc 8s 5c
Board: No Pair no possible straight two of one suit
have any set
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 17 BBs, Stack = 5460.00, TI = 7 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Raise
Default Profile: "Doodle v107", Action = bet 75% force
Matching user defined condition at line 937, Action = raisepot force
clicking POT
clicking Bet
Players = 8
River: Kh Qc 8s 5c Qs
Board: Pair no possible straight, no possible flush
have 1st nut full house or 4 of a kind
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 53 BBs, Stack = 3690.00, TI = 25 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Raise
Default Profile: "Doodle v107", Action = raisepot force
Matching user defined condition at line 1198, Action = raisepot force
clicking POT
clicking Bet

I was primarily a cash player so I'm not too familiar with tourney strat, but I would imagine this should be a 3bet to isolate the PFR?

Again, sorry if these codes have been dealt with already in the new version. Thanks!


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 07, 2015, 05:52:32 AM
Getting action on quads, nice!

Tournaments are all about stack management. When you have a big stack you don't want to risk going out by shoving against another big stack. It's time to slow down. With that in mind, I like the way both these hands were played.

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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: e3feiaro on September 07, 2015, 06:12:10 AM
Even with the AK hand?!  confused0054.gif

We weren't big stacks in either of those hands, but in the AK hand the opponent was all in with only 20bb and it was heads up

I think I understand, at least a bit, that sometimes in tourneys you have to make the "wrong" folds (equity wise) in order to advance up the ladder since that is often more +EV than making calls that you're supposed to make, that could potentially bust you out of the tourney. However,

1. Our opponent was all-in, not us. If we called we'd still have 50bb behind
2. Had we called it would've been heads up
3. We had only invested 34% of the pot
4. We only needed 12% equity! Even if he only has KK+ here we can never fold!


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 07, 2015, 07:15:32 AM
That was a significant reraise. We had a 50 BB stack; that is large for a tournament.

If I was playing manually I would probably have called -- and lost to a pocket pair. That's one thing I like about this profile, it protects a big stack better than I do.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: e3feiaro on September 07, 2015, 10:12:07 PM
A few more hands I don't understand:

//MTT Kit + Doodle 107

Folding Ax pre 6.5bb deep
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.8.7: Hand: Ad 4h
Players = 5 have A4
raise if opponents left <= 2 and calls = 0 else fold
hands played in session = 31
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 0, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 650.00, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 1 BBs
Fold
clicking Fold

Folding Ax pre 3BB deep
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.8.7: Hand: 3d Ad
Players = 5 have A6-2 suited
play if any calls and raise if opponents left <= 2 modified
fold if raises and no calls
hands played in session = 27
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 2, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 2
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 5 BBs, Stack = 300.00, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 2 BBs
In Small Blind
play if any calls and raise if opponents left <= 2 modified
fold if raises and no calls
Fold
clicking Fold

Flop is either a fold or a jam IMO, never a call, poker 101. At the river, though we should never be in a spot like this in the first place, after he checks the turn, i think it's a clear bet on this river to fold the non-zero % of his range that contains air.
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.8.7: Hand: 3d Jd
Players = 5 Fold
hands played in session = 26
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 3, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 3
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 5 BBs, Stack = 1015.00, TI = 1 BBs
Amount To Call = 1 BBs
In Big Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle v107", Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: 9s Kd 7d
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
have flush draw
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 8 BBs, Stack = 865.00, TI = 2 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 2, position = first
Bet
Not betting because of Never Bet Below option value
clicking Check
Flop: 9s Kd 7d
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
have flush draw
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 13 BBs, Stack = 865.00, TI = 2 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 2, position = first
Bet
Not betting because of Never Bet Below option value
clicking Call
Turn: 9s Kd 7d 2h
Board: No Pair no possible straight two of one suit
have any flush draw
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 18 BBs, Stack = 350.00, TI = 7 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
If Pot Size >= 9 big blinds Play if no raise else fold
clicking Check
River: 9s Kd 7d 2h Kh
Board: Pair no possible straight, no possible flush
betting on flop but no betting on turn
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bodog 9 Max, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 18 BBs, Stack = 350.00, TI = 7 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Fold
Default Profile: "Doodle v107", Action = fold force
clicking Check

 dankk2.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 08, 2015, 12:06:51 AM
There's no way you had this profile loaded for these hands. Make sure you are not just loading the text version of the Doodle. Notice:

When StackSize <= 9 and (hand = A suited or hand = AK or hand = AQ or hand = KQ or hand = QJ suited or hand = JT suited or pairinhand) raisemax force

When stacksize < 7 and (hand = A or hand = K suited or hand = QT suited or hand = T9 suited or hand = 98 suited or hand = 87 suited or hand = 76 suited) raisemax force

When Stacksize < 5 and botslastaction = raise raisemax force

When Stacksize < 5 and raises = 0 and not (hand = 23 or hand = 24 or hand = 25 or hand = 26 or hand = 27 or hand = 29 or hand = 2T or hand = 37 or hand = 38 or hand = 39 or hand = 3T or hand = 49 or hand = 4T) raisemax force

When stacksize <= 2 raisemax force


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: e3feiaro on September 08, 2015, 01:05:11 AM
Perhaps I've been loading the profile incorrectly this whole time ???

What I've been doing is going to www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt to get the latest version.
Copy and paste into a notepad2 file.
Save file as AutoProfileHoldem and stick it in the bot folder, replacing the old AutoProfileHoldem file.
Then run the bot.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 08, 2015, 04:29:11 AM
When you first open the bot is it giving you the confirmation message: Profile read from autoprofileholdem.txt ?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: e3feiaro on September 09, 2015, 01:32:23 AM
yes


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 09, 2015, 03:29:59 AM
Open the text file in your 'data' folder titled autoprofileholdem. Does it say MTT Kit + Doodle 107 ?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: e3feiaro on September 09, 2015, 05:50:49 AM
//MTT Kit + Doodle 108


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 09, 2015, 06:03:17 AM
That wasn't the one you were using when you posted the above log, obviously.

If you didn't make any modifications to the profile, I must assume you didn't have it loaded for whatever reason when the above hands occurred, as you can see by the codelines I posted that it simply pushes with any ace when it's stack gets that short.

If you did by chance make any kind of modification to the profile, make sure you didn't insert an open when condition near the top of the preflop section.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: e3feiaro on September 10, 2015, 05:06:57 AM
Yeah I downloaded the newer version after I posted that hand. I didn't make any adjustments to either 107 or 108 profiles, but in any case, I'll just re-download the new one for safe measures, and be absolutely sure I'm loading the right one next time.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: johngr on October 11, 2015, 09:44:15 AM
Would sure appreciate some odds call/odds push code using the new opponent stacksize variables.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: magicdan on October 15, 2015, 03:08:26 PM
bot should have pused pre had <5 bb, im assuming it didn't becaue stacksize is unknown, is there any way to fix this

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.9.2: Hand: 2c 2s
Players = 7 have 22
If calls = 3 or more and raises = 0, call but fold for 2 raises cold
raise if opponents left <= 2 and no calls
hands played in session = 5
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = unknown, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 1 BBs
In Big Blind
If calls = 3 or more and raises = 0, call but fold for 2 raises cold
raise if opponents left <= 2 and no calls
Raise
clicking Raise
Flop: 3s 8c 6s
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
have any pair
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = unknown, TI = 2 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
check and raise if bet to but fold if re-raised
Matching user defined condition at line 454, Action = fold force
clicking Check
Turn: 3s 8c 6s Js
Board: No Pair possible flush three of one suit, including possible straights needing two cards
have any pair
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = unknown, TI = 2 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Fold
clicking Check
River: 3s 8c 6s Js As
Board: No Pair possible flush (possible straight or not), four of one suit
have any flush
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = unknown, TI = 2 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Play if no raise
clicking Check



Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on October 15, 2015, 06:52:50 PM
Not a profile, I suggest you read the troubleshooting thread: http://bonusbots.com/support/index.php/topic,5633.0.html (http://bonusbots.com/support/index.php/topic,5633.0.html)


...and then start your own help board topic describing your PC


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: magicdan on October 16, 2015, 11:35:59 PM
hi

 cant understand why we folded here, we bet flop whitch is most of his stack and when he shoves, the amount to call was very very small
 
 i have noticed this a few times but this is the only one i have found in the logs,
 


Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.9.2: Hand: 5s As
Players = 8 have A6-2 suited
play if any calls and raise if opponents left <= 2 modified
fold if raises and no calls
hands played in session = 50
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 5, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 5
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 160.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = 10860.00, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 3 BBs
In Small Blind
corrected folds = 6
Default Profile: "Doodle v108", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 192, Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: Ac 4d Ts
Board: 3 suits no possible straight
have top pair
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 160.00, Pot = 7 BBs, Stack = 10460.00, TI = 3 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Raise if no raises
typing 895
clicking Bet
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 7, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Bet365, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 160.00, Pot = 20 BBs, Stack = 9565.00, TI = 8 BBs
Amount To Call = 2 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v108", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 533, Action = fold force
clicking Fold



line 533: When ( HaveTopPair  or Have2ndOverPair  or Have2ndTopPair )  and not ( HaveBestKicker  or Have2ndBestKicker  or Have3rdBestKicker  or HaveTwoPair  or HaveTrips  or HaveSet  or HaveQuads  or HaveFullHouse  or HaveStraightDraw  or HaveFlushDraw  or BotIsLastRaiser  or OpponentIsAllIn  or TotalInvested > 90% StackSize )  and StackSize > 15  and ( raises >= 1  or BetSize > 15% StackSize ) fold force


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on October 17, 2015, 12:11:39 AM
It's true that the amounttocall was small, but it's also true we didn't have a large % of our stack invested. This is one of those hands that falls right on the cusp and while you can make a good case for calling the 2 BB's there I am still satisfied  with the way the profile handled  it.

The codeline that was executed, as you can see, is designed to vigorously protect our stack and keep us from needlessly shrinking it. Stack size management is everything in tournaments and I really think we are beat there -- and even with a measly 2 BB call are not getting good odds to spike a 5, considering how much more valuable tournament chips are than cash game chips.

I see your point but don't really wish to change this.  dankk2.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: magicdan on October 17, 2015, 06:49:18 PM
and not ( HaveBestKicker  or Have2ndBestKicker  or Have3rdBestKicker  or HaveTwoPair  or HaveTrips  or HaveSet  or HaveQuads  or HaveFullHouse  or HaveStraightDraw  or HaveFlushDraw  or BotIsLastRaiser  or OpponentIsAllIn

sorry if I sound like an idiot, im still trying to learn the code, but shouldn't this have canceled out the line as we raised the flop and got reraised all in,

if not
my problems are that when we bet 900ish into a player with a stacksize of 1200ish we should be shoving.
and when he reshoves allin and the amount to call doesn't even amount to calf of our raise . I feel we are pot commited and I personally would have called with nothing getting 10-1. but then again I would have shoved on the flop


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on October 17, 2015, 07:05:05 PM
The truth of the matter is that opponentisallin is a somewhat unreliable variable. The bot doesn't always catch this correctly.

You make a good point about shoving when the current opponent is short-stacked. This is something i need to get my brain working on to incorporate the new maxcurrentopponentstacksize variable. Truth is I've kind of been waiting for bug reports on the new variable before changing my profiles to incorporate it  angel.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit Newbie Question
Post by: BillPitt on October 19, 2015, 01:17:38 PM
When I start this profile it always asks for the player name, is there any way to get it to save the name for future sessions?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on October 19, 2015, 06:55:41 PM
That cannot be a profile issue. Must be a poker room thing, and would happen with any profile.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Inertia on October 28, 2015, 02:02:49 AM
I have been Using this (with doodle 108) on 888 with some success (some loosing streaks, but always seems to recover and then some!)

Could I ask, I currently only go up to $8 on the tournament buy ins, but my bankroll is now built to $850 at the minute (Peaked at ~$890) starting with $300.

I was thinking when i get to $1000 to add $12, possibly $22 and $25 buy in tournaments to the list.

Is the hit rate on these likely to be the same, better or worse ?

I also want to play it on other sites, am I likely to have similar success or worse (or possibly even better) on others ?

Does anyone else waste hours of their lives watching the bot play? lol I need to leave it alone and check it once a day or every few days, but it has me hooked at the moment!

Thanks


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on October 28, 2015, 03:08:47 AM
My contention is that it will be the same, but variance plays a pretty big role in the short run. The nice thing about MTT's is they play pretty much the same at all stakes, so this is the best way to bot for high stakes!


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Inertia on October 31, 2015, 02:00:17 PM
Thanks for the reply, very useful, going to stick to low stakes for a while until the bankroll grows.

Speaking of variance, I wondered would it be possible to post (or send me) a graph of the results of this profile ?
I did extremely well in the first 2 weeks of use more than doubling my bankroll, but its been on a long loosing streak now (with the odd min-cash) for the last few days, its over halfway back towards my starting bankroll, if it continues like this for the next few days it will put me -ve.
Its had one final table but that was for a freeroll and I think i got ~$5 for 4th place.

I just wanted to see a graph for the typical variance that can be expected if possible ?

Thanks
Mark


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on October 31, 2015, 05:22:35 PM
That all sounds normal. Sorry, I don't do graphs.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: boatiuta on November 14, 2015, 07:15:32 PM
MTT seems to do quite well getting into the last 100/200 but doesnt seem to get into the money without help.

Ive played all sorts of MTTs from free to $12 entry down to $1 entry.

From what I can see so far is that it dribbles money away by calling and then folding as soon as it gets a raise.

I have some other questions as well like why is the thread open to all so that players that have not bought the bot can see what the code is which would allow them to find weak spots
Also the poker rooms can also see everything

Whats the concensus on this hand

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 7.9.4: Hand: 3h Qd
Players = 8 Fold
hands played in session = 73
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 8, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 8
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 400.00, Pot = 5 BBs, Stack = 1270.00, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 1 BBs
invalid opponents = 0
setting opponents to 6
In Big Blind
corrected folds = 5
Fold
clicking Check
Players = 7
Changed game state to FLOP
Flop: Ah 4d Kd
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 400.00, Pot = 7 BBs, Stack = 1270.00, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 1 BBs
failsafe. Missed action detected, pot = 7, alt pot = 6, pending id = 0
3 bets 400.00
discrepancy corrected. pot = 7, alt pot = 7
opponents = 2, position = middle
Fold
Default Profile: "Doodle v108", Action = call force
clicking Call
Players = 7
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 5, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = 888, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 400.00, Pot = 17 BBs, Stack = 470.00, TI = 2 BBs
Amount To Call = 3 BBs
failsafe. Missed action detected, pot = 17, alt pot = 14, pending id = 5
4 calls 1200.00
discrepancy corrected. pot = 17, alt pot = 17
Default Profile: "Doodle v108", Action = fold force
clicking Fold
(Hand# 740632668) ************** won $9,026


Ive already paid BB so could go another round but MTT called the big stacks bet of $800 leaving me with just $470, another then calls $800 another raises $1600. The big stack ($15,333) calls the $1600. MTT folds.

When the Bigstack bet $800 we knew we were beaten by 2 flopped cards with two others with bigger stacks still to bet so our odds of getting a winning hand were minimal. Surely with Q 3 we should have either folded or Pushed. We didnt have enough stack to just call. Fold maybe, stay in and go another round or Push.

Opinion please


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 14, 2015, 07:33:13 PM
Technical problems, as the bot is missing bets by your opponents. You should start a Help board topic and describe your PC and monitor situation. The bot thought it was checking behind your opponent, not calling a bet.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Link on November 15, 2015, 09:06:51 AM
Hi Egor,

did you write the word "not" on purpose  outside/inside the  parenthesis ( () ) ?

When TotalInvested > 115% StackSize  and TripsOnBoard  and ( bets = 1  or raises >= 1 ) and (not NutFullHouseOrFourOfAKind = 1) and havefullhouse call force
When TotalInvested > 115% StackSize  and PairOnBoard  and ( bets = 1  or raises >= 1 )  and not ( NutFullHouseOrFourOfAKind = 2  or NutFullHouseOrFourOfAKind = 1  or NutFullHouseOrFourOfAKind = 3  or NutFullHouseOrFourOfAKind = 4  or HaveQuads  or HaveStraightFlush )  and ( HaveOverPair  or Have2ndOverPair  or HaveUnderPair  or HaveTopPair  or Have2ndTopPair  or HaveTrips  or HaveStraight  or HaveFlush  or HaveStraightDraw  or HaveFlushDraw ) call force
When TotalInvested > 115% StackSize  and FlushPossible  and ( bets = 1  or raises >= 1 )  and ( not HaveFlush )  and ( HavePair  or HaveStraight  or HaveNutFlushDraw ) call force

should be line 487, or in the neighbourhood



Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Marvel on November 15, 2015, 11:20:21 AM
http://bonusbots.com/support/index.php/topic,7978.msg79966.html#msg79966 (http://bonusbots.com/support/index.php/topic,7978.msg79966.html#msg79966)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Link on November 15, 2015, 02:49:01 PM
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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 15, 2015, 04:53:49 PM
When there's only one 'not' condition inside the bracket it doesn't matter if 'not' is inside or out

for multiples, however, it must be outside


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Linda on December 30, 2015, 08:37:59 PM
Hello...I wonder if someone can help me here.  I'm brand new yet it seems like I should've been able to figure this out, but am ashamed to say I can't.  In the OP (the bold parts are my edits), it is said....

6. Copy the code below on to a blank notepad file. Paste each section at the top of the corresponding betting round code in your PPL.

It is critical that each betting round code goes at the top of your profile's PPL code for each betting round. If you don't do that right it will only screw the profile up. For example copy the Flop section and paste it above all your code for the flop (under the word flop in your PPL).

......in the bold parts it refers to the "code in your PPL".  When I look in my bot directory I notice the file called "holdem.ppl".  It was my natural assumption that my existing profile's PPL code would be inside that file because that file is named the exact thing I want to tweak in order to make the MTT profile work.  But the confusing part is that the file "holdem.ppl" is a binary file.   I can't open that file to place the sections of code in there where they belong. 

None of the other files that I can open in my bot directory have anything to do with the ppl code so where in the world do I paste that MTT code into??


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 30, 2015, 08:52:44 PM
You only need to do the conversion if you are modifying your own cash game profile to play tournaments.

If you simply want to modify the default profile for tournaments, that has already been done for you and the complete profile is posted at www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

It is in text format. To learn how to load text profiles, see the screenshots in section 2 of the Holdem Bot User Manual.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: GreenFish on December 30, 2015, 09:02:01 PM
Hello...I wonder if someone can help me here.  I'm brand new yet it seems like I should've been able to figure this out, but am ashamed to say I can't.  In the OP (the bold parts are my edits), it is said....

6. Copy the code below on to a blank notepad file. Paste each section at the top of the corresponding betting round code in your PPL.

It is critical that each betting round code goes at the top of your profile's PPL code for each betting round. If you don't do that right it will only screw the profile up. For example copy the Flop section and paste it above all your code for the flop (under the word flop in your PPL).

......in the bold parts it refers to the "code in your PPL".  When I look in my bot directory I notice the file called "holdem.ppl".  It was my natural assumption that my existing profile's PPL code would be inside that file because that file is named the exact thing I want to tweak in order to make the MTT profile work.  But the confusing part is that the file "holdem.ppl" is a binary file.   I can't open that file to place the sections of code in there where they belong.  

None of the other files that I can open in my bot directory have anything to do with the ppl code so where in the world do I paste that MTT code into??

 To get started you could just copy and paste  the MTT that egor posted into notepad.   Then save it as  autoprofileholdem.  Put this in your folder where the bot and holdem ppl is .When you start the bot it will load automatically and holdem ppl will back it up automatically.  Simple as that  beer.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Linda on December 30, 2015, 10:00:00 PM
Oh my, that sounds VERY easy.  party0007.gif Thank you for the information, GreenFish!  Just one more even easier question, please....Should that file be named  autoprofileholdem or  autoprofileholdem.txt ???


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 18, 2016, 06:45:06 PM
The bot wanted to raisemax as that's what the profile instructed, but could not find the betting button to do so.

Was this on the older version 24 888 software? Make sure you followed the setup instructions from the Holdem Bot User Manual and start a new Help board topic if the issue continues, as it's not a profile issue.

 dankk2.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Cooper66 on January 18, 2016, 07:49:37 PM
Yes, my setup error  .Thanks


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 30, 2016, 04:38:35 AM
Doodle 109 + MTT Kit now available:

www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

A .ppl version is also available here: www.bonusbots.com/mttppl.zip (http://www.bonusbots.com/mttppl.zip)

...if using the .ppl version you will also need to load a text profile of the option menu settings, here: www.bonusbots.com/mttoptions.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mttoptions.txt)

 robot.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: wildcaught on May 14, 2016, 10:55:22 PM
Hello:

I was wondering whether the 1bb was worth seeing the river here? Small pot which tripped the amountocall threshold on line 848.  Thanks!

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 8.1.2: Hand: 3h Js
Players = 7 Fold
hands played in session = 13
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = Americas, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 150.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 12283.00, TI = 1 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
In Big Blind
Fold
clicking Check
Flop: 7c Td Qd
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Americas, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 150.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 12283.00, TI = 1 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Fold
Default Profile: "Doodle v109", Action = fold force
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 497
Matching user defined condition at line 587, Action = fold force
clicking Check
Turn: 7c Td Qd Kc
Board: No Pair possible straight (up to two of one suit), two cards needed to make straight
have straight draw
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = Americas, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 150.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 12283.00, TI = 1 BBs
Amount To Call = 1 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
If Pot Size >= 11 big blinds Play if no raise else fold
Default Profile: "Doodle v109", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 848, Action = fold force
clicking Fold

line 848: When AmountToCall > 20% PotSize  and not ( HavePair  or HaveStraight  or HaveFlush  or HaveTwoPair  or HaveTrips  or HaveSet  or HaveFullHouse  or HaveQuads ) fold force


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 14, 2016, 11:36:58 PM
I see your point there, but were not getting odds on making that draw and even if we did and the opponent had a large stack they wouldn't call a large river bet unless they also had the jack so really there's no implied odds to be had either...


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: wildcaught on May 15, 2016, 03:56:47 PM
Thanks, I see your point as well and agree. 


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mrphil on August 01, 2016, 05:15:19 AM
Question on a hand:
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 8.1.6: Hand: 9h Th
Players = 7 have T9 suited
play if any calls and raise if opponents left <= 3
fold if raises and no calls
hands played in session = 30
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = Blackchip, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = 1480.00, TI = 1 BBs
Amount To Call = 1 BBs
In Big Blind
Default Profile: "MTT/D109", Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: 8h 2d Kh
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
have flush draw
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = Blackchip, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 5 BBs, Stack = 1330.00, TI = 2 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
If Pot Size >= 3 big blinds Play if no raise else fold
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 131
clicking Check
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = Blackchip, game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 16 BBs, Stack = 1330.00, TI = 2 BBs
Amount To Call = 10 BBs
Default Profile: "MTT/D109", Action = call force
User defined variable UserDead2 set to true at line 130
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 131
clicking Call


I had doodle MTT running as .ppl with the doodle sng profile loaded as text.

Should we be calling on a draw here risking so much of our stack?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on August 01, 2016, 05:55:14 AM
No that should be a push or fold (probably fold).  dankk2.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: deyy on August 23, 2016, 08:35:52 PM
Bought the bot 1 week ago and have only played MTT with Egor's MTT Conversion Kit. After 50 MTT's i've won about 200$. I had only won 3$ before the ~40 MTT when i got to second place in a 1$ buy-in.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 02, 2016, 09:03:10 PM
 party0007.gif robot.gif  party0007.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: deyy on November 04, 2016, 02:53:10 AM
Yesterday i took over at the final table heads-up. Won the tournament and the winnings were about 110$. For me the easiest way seems to be playing low buy-in MTT.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Torbot on November 12, 2016, 05:43:48 PM
Placed 10 out of 300++ in MTT last night with this profile  party0007.gif

 dankk2.gif !!!!


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: bkikic919 on November 21, 2016, 07:58:45 PM
Hello,

been play tournaments with MTT for two weeks now, it play solid, but there is one thing thats bothering me. In like 10 tournaments i was 2-4 places from geting in the money and then the bot goes all in with something that is hardly a nuts,  a pair most of the times, it does that probably because i was low on chips. But i did have enought chips to get in the money if the bot didnt go all in. Can you tell the bot through PPL commands that when hero is 2-5 places or 2-10 from geting in the money that it calls preflop only top pairs QQ, KK, AA and postflop only apsolute nuts, and then when im in the money it can play as it plays normaly. Now can this be done or is it science fiction?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Link on November 21, 2016, 08:13:55 PM
Hello,

Now can this be done or is it science fiction?

Yes it can be done. What you need is Wildfire (addon section) with a bubble profile (custom made).
Wildfire can detect (adjustable) when the bubble is reached and launches the profile


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: bkikic919 on November 21, 2016, 08:17:12 PM
Yes it can be done. What you need is Wildfire (addon section) with a bubble profile (custom made).
Wildfire can detect (adjustable) when the bubble is reached and launches the profile

Still sounds to me like a science fiction  :), but im gonna do some research, thanks


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: IntoTheVoid on November 23, 2016, 05:48:36 AM
Curious about this:

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 8.2.8: Hand: 7h 7c
Players = 9 have 77
Fold if raises and less calls, raise if opponents left <= 5 but fold if 2+ raises cold
hands played in session = 15
in timer: players = 9, folds in game= 4, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 4
casino = POKERROOMNAMECHANGED, No Limit Tourny, BB = 40.00, Pot = 13 BBs, Stack = 99999980.00, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 11 BBs
In Small Blind
corrected folds = 7
User defined variable UserEarlyRaiser set to true at line 122
User defined variable UserDead set to true at line 125
Fold if raises and less calls, raise if opponents left <= 5 but fold if 2+ raises cold
Fold
clicking Fold

Ok, first we know my Stacksize was not 99999980.00 lol. But lets ASSUME it was...why would we ever fold here in SB to an all-in 11 BB shove? Now if I was sitting on like a 20ish BB stack, I could understand. But I know I was on like a 50+ BB stack at the time and feel like thats a 90% call with only the BB to go (who was INACTIVE(sitting out)).  Maybe my thinking is wrong? Or maybe I'm reading this wrong?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 23, 2016, 08:43:53 AM
Someone raises to 11 BB's that's a big raise to cold-call. With a huge stack i see what you are saying, yeah. I'll have to look at this, it could be there is some protection code in there against obvious stack misreads.

Although with the table still full I'm not sure I want to let my big stack get chipped away at here.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: IntoTheVoid on November 23, 2016, 01:23:41 PM
I think there could definitely be an argument either way and I think you might be right for a protection for invalid stack stack size, that would make a lot of sense to have in. I going to say that my thinking is more in line with a "Freeroll" vs a "Reg Tournament". I actually do like your line a TINY bit more when we are dealing with real $s. Might be something I tweak for a Freeroll profile or something.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: wanker on November 27, 2016, 10:16:26 PM
Hello,

first i want to say thank you for your great service! I received my licence after only 1 hour...Thanks for that!

My question is, can i play with this profile also tournaments with 6 seated tables?

Thanks

Edit, i got a question. How to change the betforce in potsize into a smoother raise? Do i have to do that in the bot option or in the txt?

Do i have to open the mtt.txt and change the default flop size down? would this smooth everything down?

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 8.2.8: Hand: Kc Qs
Players = 8 have KQ
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. + modified instructions
hands played in session = 70
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 5, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 3, bets = 0, folds = 5
casino = 888 New 9 Max, No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 11 BBs, Stack = 3414.00, TI = 1 BBs
Amount To Call = 3 BBs
In Big Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle v109", Action = call force
User defined variable UserEarlyRaiser set to true at line 122
Matching user defined condition at line 299, Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: Ks 5c 3c
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
have top pair
also have 2nd best kicker
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 5, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = 888 New 9 Max, No Limit Tourny, BB = 100.00, Pot = 18 BBs, Stack = 3094.00, TI = 4 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 3, position = first
Call if no raise but if checked to Bet and call 1 raise
Default Profile: "Doodle v109", Action = betpot force
Matching user defined condition at line 615, Action = betpot force
clicking POT
clicking Bet


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 27, 2016, 11:49:09 PM
You can use this profile in any tournament, but if you want to change plays like raise sizes they must be changed situation by situation


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: wanker on November 27, 2016, 11:55:42 PM
Ah, its starting to make a bit sense to me, thank you  thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: andrea on January 09, 2017, 02:01:59 PM
Hi egor can i use this  profile also on turbos 1500 starting chips mtt? Or do you suggest another Profile for this  kind of Matt


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: andrea on January 09, 2017, 02:06:38 PM
I m playing in titanbet.it italian ipoker skin ty


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 09, 2017, 06:49:23 PM
It should be okay there, but if the blind size is rising extremely fast I would probably rather use a simple push/fold profile.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: LeiteS on January 26, 2017, 10:56:35 PM
Egor,

I cant see the version of the sng.txt at: http://bonusbots.com/sng.txt

Is it updated ? Thank you.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 26, 2017, 11:18:32 PM
No, it is a very old version. I should probably update it.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: johngr on February 10, 2017, 01:31:52 PM


...if using the .ppl version you will also need to load a text profile of the option menu settings

Can this be done 1x and then the settings stay the same when you load the bot again or do you need to run it everytime you start the bot?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on February 10, 2017, 06:01:24 PM
The bot actually remembers the last option menu settings used. But it tales what, 3 extra seconds to load a text profile anyway?


Title: fold a full house here?
Post by: gaia on June 15, 2017, 12:57:55 PM
Hi guys

I am on the fence with this fold on the turn with a full house as we are relatively shortstacked. What do you think?


Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 8.5.2: Hand: 9c 9h
Players = 5 have 99
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. Call in blinds if more calls
hands played in session = 163
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 4
casino = 888 New 9 Max, No Limit Tourny, BB = 1400.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = 18674.00, TI = 1 BBs
Amount To Call = 1 BBs
In Big Blind
Default Profile: "Doodle v109", Action = call force
Matching user defined condition at line 152, Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: Qc Qh 8h
Board: pair with 2 suits
have any two pairs
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = 888 New 9 Max, No Limit Tourny, BB = 1400.00, Pot = 5 BBs, Stack = 16924.00, TI = 2 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Bet
User defined variable user2set set to true at line 497
Not betting because of Never Bet Below option value
clicking Check
Turn: Qc Qh 8h Qd
Board: 3 of a kind
have any full house
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = 888 New 9 Max, No Limit Tourny, BB = 1400.00, Pot = 5 BBs, Stack = 16924.00, TI = 2 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Play if no raise
clicking Check
in timer: players = 4, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = -1
casino = 888 New 9 Max, No Limit Tourny, BB = 1400.00, Pot = 7 BBs, Stack = 16924.00, TI = 2 BBs
Amount To Call = 2 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v109", Action = fold force
Matching user defined condition at line 963, Action = fold force
clicking Fold




Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on June 15, 2017, 05:19:43 PM
Me too. Fence.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: gaia on June 15, 2017, 08:36:23 PM
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Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on July 24, 2017, 08:44:20 PM
Update posted, dated July 18 (2017). The MTT Kit is located in the first post of this thread. The "kit" is for your own use if you want to convert a cash profile for tournaments.

The Doodle/MTT profile is this kit blended with the Doodle, in other words the Doodle converted to an MTT profile with this kit. It has always been one of the best MTT profiles in our entire forum, in my opinion, and is the only one I use personally. It has also now been updated and posted at www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://www.bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

Change Log

A hand was posted where the bot called off the majority of it's 14BB stack with a flush draw on the flop. A new codeline has been placed at the end of the flop in the MTT kit which will prevent this.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: gaia on December 08, 2017, 12:46:11 PM
Hi Fellows

What do you think of these shortstacked hands?

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 8.9.0: Hand: 3s Jc
Players = 5 Fold
hands played in session = 115
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 4
casino = 888 New 9 Max, No Limit Tourny, BB = 1600.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 6822.00, TI = 1 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
In Big Blind
Matching user defined condition at line 81, Action = raisemax force

But not:

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 8.9.0: Hand: Jh Ac
Players = 5 have AJ
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. + modified instructions2
hands played in session = 113
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 0, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = 888 New 9 Max, No Limit Tourny, BB = 1200.00, Pot = 4 BBs, Stack = 8772.00, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 3 BBs
Fold

G


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on December 08, 2017, 08:03:22 PM
Well I wrote it so it figures I will agree with them.

With less than 5 BB's I'm open-pushing first opportunity with anything but the very worst hands.

I can see going with the AJ hand. Tough spot with 7 BBs and a raise in front of us. Maybe that should be changed...


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 20, 2018, 10:11:41 PM
MTT/Doodle profile blend now updated to Doodle 110: http://bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

Will come in the download starting with the next version of the bot.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: FatStacks on May 13, 2018, 03:27:37 PM
I'm not sure I understand this logic:

Code:
When stacksize = 0 and stacksize < 1

From the blended doodle mtt.txt


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mrphil on May 13, 2018, 05:12:31 PM
Those lines are failsafe code to help prevent screw ups when the bot missreads stacksize.

If you notice your bot executing those lines, it means there is an issue and you should report it in the bugs or help sections.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: gaia on August 24, 2018, 03:38:53 PM
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 9.2.1: Hand: 5c 2s
Players = 8 Fold
hands played in session = 164
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 6, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 6
casino = Bet365 9 Max, No Limit Tourny, BB = 30000.00, Pot = 6 BBs, Stack = 72941.00, TI = 1 BBs
Amount To Call = 2 BBs
In Big Blind
Matching user defined condition at line 83, Action = raisemax force
clicking MAX
clicking Raise

so this resteal seems a little loose to me. We go up against villain with decent stack with a hand from the bottom drawer. Even though we are just under 10 bb I would consider tightening this range. Villain probably wont fold much at these microstakes.

Best
G


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mrphil on August 24, 2018, 04:47:52 PM
Look again. Unless the bot had missread of the big blind, you had a stack of between 2 and 3 bbs, and you were big blind. You have to play with literally any hand.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: engen88 on September 05, 2018, 02:32:34 PM
Has played 64 MTT games.  Buy-in 1 $, 0.5 $.
Not once did not take prizes.
Is this the norm? Share your experience.

I use the profile MTT.txt


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 05, 2018, 03:52:34 PM
That is such a bad run I would make sure you are not getting reading errors on your setup, especially stack size.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: engen88 on September 05, 2018, 04:47:33 PM
What do I need to do so that you check the correctness of the bot


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on September 05, 2018, 07:44:55 PM
 To make sure the software is working correctly, watch the bot play at one table only with the bot window open on the screen. Verify that it is reporting accurate information, especially in regards to the big blind size, stack size, opponent count, and bet/raise/call count when it is the bot's turn to act. If all seems well, add additional tables one at a time and continue to verify that the additional bot windows are functioning properly.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mrphil on November 13, 2018, 09:06:54 PM
This isn't a profile issue. The profile called for a potsize bet on the turn and it min bet instead. You should post in the help section because it is a bot issue.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Pepone on November 14, 2018, 09:17:47 PM
Hi guys,

I found this error, it seems difficult to fix because was at root level in the bot.

I think that maybe we would need here something like:

when (condition to make betpot) and Potsize > 80% Stacksize Raisemax force
when (condition to make betpot) and Potsize <= 80% Stacksize Betpot force

The bot wanted to make betpot, but the betting button "Pot" was not availabe because Pot=9x200=1800 > Stack 1630; so clicked in the "air" and made a bet min.

Sadly, a nice hand was a lose :-(

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 9.3.4: Hand: As Ad
Players = 5 have AA
Raise
hands played in session = 77
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = room iPoker 9 Max, No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 2 BBs, Stack = 2480.00, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 1 BBs
Default Profile: "Doodle v110", Action = raise 2 force
Matching user defined condition at line 290, Action = raisepot force
clicking POT
clicking Raise
Flop: Th Ah Ks
Board: 2 suits possible straight
have top set
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 1, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = room iPoker 9 Max, No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00, Pot = 9 BBs, Stack = 1630.00, TI = 4 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Raise
Bot is last raiser and checked to and opponents less than 3
clicking POT
clicking Bet
Turn: Th Ah Ks Jh
Board: No Pair possible flush three of one suit, straight needing only one card possible
have any set
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
casino = room iPoker 9 Max, No Limit Tourny, BB = 200.00,  Pot = 23 BBs, Stack = 1430.00, TI = 5 BBs
Amount To Call = 11 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Bet in Last position
Default Profile: "Doodle v110", Action = call force
User defined variable UserTurnGood set to true at line 834
Matching user defined condition at line 1117, Action = call force
clicking All In
poker window not found. Attempting to re-establish connection
could not find poker window


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on November 15, 2018, 07:16:23 AM
Not a profile issue but an issue with not clicking on the right button.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: PokerBot007 on January 17, 2019, 07:53:21 PM
Is this the standard MTT profile that comes with the bot, as in I don't need to change any settings?

I'm just wanting to set this up to play a MTT every night and grind out results over time. 


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 17, 2019, 09:52:29 PM
Yes! Just point and click on the bot menu to load this (assuming you did not remove the default .ppl profile)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: PokerBot007 on January 18, 2019, 02:58:29 AM
Yes! Just point and click on the bot menu to load this (assuming you did not remove the default .ppl profile)

So how do you get it to play like 10-20 MTT's overnight on Ignition without erroring out?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on January 18, 2019, 04:44:37 AM
Sorry, that's not a profile question.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on March 10, 2019, 09:12:35 AM
New profile blended with Doodle 111:


http://bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

I doubt much will be affected for tournament play, though from the last version.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Himper84 on April 07, 2019, 03:25:44 PM
Do you agree with these plays? I've had the bot shove with 99 and a stack size < 26 twice and got beat both time.
I only have a bot log for one (but I remember seeing no read errors on the other), and PT4 hand summary for both are below.

Quote
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 9.5.9: Hand: 9c 9d
Players = 8 have 99
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. Call in blinds if more calls
hands played in session = 137
in timer: players = 8, folds in game= 3, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 3
casino = XXXXXX 9 Max, No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 8 BBs, Stack = 1500.00, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 3 BBs
User defined variable UserEarlyRaiser set to true at line 122
Matching user defined condition at line 352, Action = raisemax force
typing 1500
clicking Raise

XXXXXX - 30/60 NL - Holdem - 9 players

MP+1: 48.5 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
MP+2: 25 BB
Hero (CO): 25 BB
BTN: 47.67 BB
SB: 22.25 BB (VPIP: 15.56, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 46)
BB: 23.08 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG: 19.17 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG+1: 22.25 BB
MP: 35.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has  9:club: 9:diamond:

fold, fold, MP raises to 3.5 BB, MP+1 calls 3.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 25 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, MP raises to 35.5 BB and is all-in, MP+1 calls 32 BB

Flop: (97.5 BB, 3 players)  2:heart: 4:diamond: 6:diamond:

Turn: (97.5 BB, 3 players)  5:club:

River: (97.5 BB, 3 players)  8:diamond:

MP+1 shows  J:spade: J:heart:  (One Pair, Jacks)

Main Pot [76.5 BB]: (Pre 66%, Flop 9%, Turn 8%)
Side Pot#1 [21 BB]: (Pre 81%, Flop 10%, Turn 10%)

Hero shows  9:club: 9:diamond:  (One Pair, Nines)

Main Pot [76.5 BB]: (Pre 19%, Flop 13%, Turn 8%)

MP shows  6:heart: 6:spade:  (Three of a Kind, Sixes)

Main Pot [76.5 BB]: (Pre 15%, Flop 78%, Turn 84%)
Side Pot#1 [21 BB]: (Pre 19%, Flop 90%, Turn 90%)

MP wins 97.5 BB

Quote
XXXXXX - 50/100 NL - Holdem - 8 players

CO: 15.4 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 12)
BTN: 81.32 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
SB: 30.96 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BB: 8.18 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
Hero (UTG): 14.9 BB
UTG+1: 25.98 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
MP: 34.8 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP+1: 33.85 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)

8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has  9:heart: 9:diamond:

Hero raises to 14.8 BB and is all-in, fold, MP calls 14.8 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 14.8 BB, fold, BB calls 7.08 BB and is all-in

Flop: (53.78 BB, 4 players)  Q:diamond: K:club: 2:diamond:
MP checks, BTN bets 66.42 BB and is all-in, MP calls 19.9 BB and is all-in

Turn: (93.58 BB, 4 players)  8:heart:

River: (93.58 BB, 4 players)  3:club:

BTN shows  Q:club: A:heart:  (One Pair, Queens)

Main Pot [33.62 BB]: (Pre 23%, Flop 59%, Turn 80%)
Side Pot#1 [20.16 BB]: (Pre 28%, Flop 66%, Turn 85%)
Side Pot#2 [39.8 BB]: (Pre 72%, Flop 78%, Turn 90%)

BB shows  Q:heart: T:heart:  (One Pair, Queens)

Main Pot [33.62 BB]: (Pre 10%, Flop 7%, Turn 5%)

Hero shows  9:heart: 9:diamond:  (One Pair, Nines)

Main Pot [33.62 BB]: (Pre 47%, Flop 13%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot#1 [20.16 BB]: (Pre 52%, Flop 13%, Turn 5%)

MP shows  T:club: A:club:  (High Card, Ace)

Main Pot [33.62 BB]: (Pre 19%, Flop 20%, Turn 10%)
Side Pot#1 [20.16 BB]: (Pre 21%, Flop 21%, Turn 10%)
Side Pot#2 [39.8 BB]: (Pre 28%, Flop 22%, Turn 10%)

BTN wins 93.58 BB


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Himper84 on April 07, 2019, 04:36:13 PM
I have another one for you to take a look at.

Quote
Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 9.5.9: Hand: 9h 9d
Players = 6 have 99
Raise if no raises but fold if 2+ raises cold. Call in blinds if more calls
hands played in session = 22
in timer: players = 6, folds in game= 1, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = XXXXXX 9 Max, No Limit Tourny, BB = 150.00, Pot = 3 BBs, Stack = 2020.00, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 7 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 352, Action = raisemax force
typing 2020
clicking All In

XXXXXX - 75/150 NL - Holdem - 8 players

SB: 8.63 BB (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 1.75, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 64)
BB: 12.97 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: 9.17 BB (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
UTG+1: 9.77 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP: 7.8 BB (VPIP: 55.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
Hero (MP+1): 13.57 BB
CO: 10.3 BB (VPIP: 5.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BTN: 48.2 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)

8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has  9:heart: 9:diamond:

fold, fold, MP raises to 7.7 BB and is all-in, Hero raises to 13.47 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (17.7 BB, 2 players)  K:club: K:heart: Q:heart:

Turn: (17.7 BB, 2 players)  5:club:

River: (17.7 BB, 2 players)  A:club:

MP shows  4:club: A:diamond:  (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
 (Pre 30%, Flop 26%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows  9:heart: 9:diamond:  (Two Pair, Kings and Nines)
 (Pre 70%, Flop 74%, Turn 86%)
MP wins 17.7 BB


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 07, 2019, 07:30:17 PM
Well let's review line 352 then:

When hand = 99
When stacksize < 26  and raises <= 1 raisemax force


Pretty simple. It's been this way for years and the profile generally has good results. But, maybe this shove should be a little more short-stacked than 25 big blinds?

I would point out that you were a favorite in all three of these examples, though, going in against A4, 66, and AQ -- you can see the kinds of hand opponents are willing to push with in these tournaments. You were a big favorite against A4 and 66 and a small favorite over AQ.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Himper84 on April 07, 2019, 08:09:20 PM
And that's why you write the profiles and I just use them. Just wanted your take on the hands.

Enjoy your vacation.  thumbsup.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: BleepBlopBlurp on April 14, 2019, 02:12:31 AM
New profile blended with Doodle 111:


http://bonusbots.com/mtt.txt (http://bonusbots.com/mtt.txt)

I doubt much will be affected for tournament play, though from the last version.
when this says "blended with Doodle 111" does that mean it can be used in place of doodle or is it Doodle modified for MTT play?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Himper84 on April 14, 2019, 02:43:00 AM
Correct. It means it is all inclusive Doodle + MTT in one file.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: BleepBlopBlurp on April 30, 2019, 03:30:12 PM
So I just use the bot as normal and do READ PROFILE and select MTT.txt?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 30, 2019, 06:59:33 PM
yes!  anim_65.gif


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: BleepBlopBlurp on April 30, 2019, 07:56:33 PM
In the thread below discussing the EV code it says to insert the EV Code in whenothers at the beginning of the preflop code. I searched the entire profile and couldn't find that line anywhere.

I wanted to try making a modified Doodle/MTT profile using the EV Code. I just can't find where to insert it.


http://bonusbots.com/support/index.php/topic,9619.0.html


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on April 30, 2019, 09:00:11 PM
That is someone else's project and I have never tried using it.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: tygawoodys on May 01, 2019, 12:49:44 AM
Can someone please tell me how to find the last log of the play the bot made with the MTT default profile with the bot?

There was one more place to go and I would have been in the money but it called a shove of 10 or so big blinds with AS 5S with two more players to act.

I want to post it here cause I would have folded in that situation with that hand and especially at the bubble.

Want to see what went wrong.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 01, 2019, 01:24:55 AM
After you close the bot the last hand will be in the last recorded log, right at the end of it.

But it doesn't sound like anything was wrong. With < 11 BB's left in our stack this profile shoves with AXs


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: tygawoodys on May 01, 2019, 02:19:34 PM
After you close the bot the last hand will be in the last recorded log, right at the end of it.

But it doesn't sound like anything was wrong. With < 11 BB's left in our stack this profile shoves with AXs
That explains why it did it but I would rather avoid that especially on the bubble and wait for other players to bust so I can have a grab at some of the cash, even time out or wait for a decent hand to call the shove or shove myself.

After running thorough reading the PPL guide last night, maybe I can add an option to either fold +-50% of the time or shove with those amounts of blinds.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on May 01, 2019, 05:53:55 PM
sure, you can modify it however you want


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mrphil on June 15, 2019, 11:49:29 PM
Would you mind posting a .ppl version with the latest doodle incorporated? The one you had previosuly has the old doodle 109 for it. Thanks.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on June 16, 2019, 03:09:14 AM
why you need that phil?


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mrphil on June 16, 2019, 02:26:34 PM
I like to run it as a safety net .ppl for the mtt text profiles I use that are not closed (with "when others").


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on June 16, 2019, 06:58:32 PM
ah -- good idea -- lemme make a note to do that for you


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mrphil on June 16, 2019, 07:43:19 PM
Much appreciated. Thanks.

It might be nice for the community to possibly include it as a .ppl with the main bot installation files as possibly a mtt.ppl file in addition to the doodle holdem.ppl file, but I'll be fine getting it from this thread too. (and yes, I realize you already include it as a text file with the installation files)


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Egor on June 16, 2019, 08:10:02 PM
Done: http://bonusbots.com/mttppl.zip (http://bonusbots.com/mttppl.zip)

A text file with the option settings is included; you can paste those on top of the text file you are using (unless it uses it's own).

If you still get D109 you are getting cached, try deleting browser history, refreshing page, etc. until it says MTT D111


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Mrphil on June 16, 2019, 08:26:50 PM
It works. Thank you.


Title: Re: Egor's MTT Conversion Kit
Post by: Poker8 on June 16, 2019, 09:48:57 PM
I like to run it as a safety net .ppl for the mtt text profiles I use that are not closed (with "when others").

That is a darn good idea!! thumbsup.gif