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« on: March 29, 2014, 02:08:28 AM »

http://www.mediafire.com/view/bpkgv5xh1nf5152/doodle104mtt_seth.txt

Doodle MTT that bets less than 100% of the pot on the flop as a c-bet and probably some other betsizes reduced.
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2014, 11:42:11 AM »

What sort of results have you had with this Seth?
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2014, 09:22:17 AM »

It seems to do quite well in the ipoker on demand tournaments.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2014, 12:27:15 PM »

Where are these on demand tornies are they available on WilliamHill as I caanot seem to find them?

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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2014, 01:28:21 PM »

They're in the main mtt section. They're called on-tap. They start when 18 people sign up (12 for the 6max) and then late registration lasts 6 levels, so there's usually about 80-100 runners. Mostly only 0.50 and 1 euro but perfect for testing profiles.

Edit, profile is coming across as a small ball survivor that will hang in there and go deep very often. Obviously Egor has it well coded for double or quits with less than 10 bb. I'd guess original doodlemtt might be better for 888 and this one for ipoker.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2014, 03:05:04 PM »

does the bot cope with the table change ok seth?
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2014, 05:15:10 PM »

I haven't tried running multiple mtt's with the same name, if that's what you're asking.
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2014, 11:47:36 PM »

v2 Unspecified raise amounts set to 100% ie 2.5 BB preflop on ipoker. Should hopefully avoid unwelcome pushing all in on 888 first few hands at a new table when the bot hasn't found it's bearings.

NB does mean betsize  with weak/nothing is sometimes larger than with a real hand.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/wgxx4xkw77ycdy2/doodle104mtt_sethv2.txt

Edit : I'm now over $1000 ahead with this on ipoker alone since I first posted it less than 10 days ago . Not bad for a free profile. Thanks Egor (and me).  rockout
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2014, 04:37:16 AM »

I just want to say that I agree reducing the flop c-bet size in MTT's is probably wise. It doesn't take as big of bet in tournaments to discourage players from playing back at you.
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2014, 06:41:13 PM »

Tested that profile. Seems to play ok.

But what U thing about this hand:

Hand: 9d 8d
Players = 7 have 98 suited
play if any calls and raise if opponents left <= 3
fold if raises and no calls
hands played in session
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
ame = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 1380.00, TI = 0 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 409, Action = call force
clicking Call
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 5, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 5
game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 8 BBs, Stack = 1320.00, TI = 1 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 394, Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: 4s Tc 3s
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 25 BBs, Stack = 1080.00, TI = 5 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Fold
Matching user defined condition at line 446, Action = fold force
clicking Fold

240 chips call with 98s  Huh?
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2014, 07:11:17 PM »

I like that call
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2014, 08:45:17 PM »

Tested that profile. Seems to play ok.

But what U thing about this hand:

Hand: 9d 8d
Players = 7 have 98 suited
play if any calls and raise if opponents left <= 3
fold if raises and no calls
hands played in session
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
ame = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 1380.00, TI = 0 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 409, Action = call force
clicking Call
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 5, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 1, bets = 0, folds = 5
game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 8 BBs, Stack = 1320.00, TI = 1 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 394, Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: 4s Tc 3s
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
in timer: players = 7, folds in game= 6, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = 0
game = No Limit Tourny, BB = 60.00, Pot = 25 BBs, Stack = 1080.00, TI = 5 BBs
opponents = 1, position = last
Fold
Matching user defined condition at line 446, Action = fold force
clicking Fold

240 chips call with 98s  Huh?


i can see making the call when its less then 6% or so of stacksize.   18% of your stack to make the call here is a little much in my opinion.  

with that being said, this is a free profile and very generous of egor and sethunter for their contribution. 
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2014, 10:25:27 PM »

do u think it can play 10 dolars mtt?
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2014, 11:47:54 PM »

do u think it can play 10 dolars mtt?

The biggest I've played is 5 euro rebuys on ipoker, but there won't be much difference to 10's. For 888 I'd probably go with bigger bets, more like Egor's original doodleMTT.

@JohnTheMan It does limp with more hands than I would, but I've only changed betsizes and not actions. In a future version we could try min raising instead of limping etc.

My starting point was to give us a 2nd chance and not get pot committed too easily.

Hopefully it shows people how to adapt a profile to suit their preferences.
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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2014, 12:04:17 AM »


i can see making the call when its less then 6% or so of stacksize.   18% of your stack to make the call here is a little much in my opinion.  


Yep, totally agree (mathematically) but in it's current format if we took out hands like that the profile would be too obviously super tight. As it is, it's still pretty tight and we are getting undue credit for strength when we limp or call with hands like that. Again, I don't like it for other sites, but it does work on ipoker where we can BS exploit other bots postflop after making a non-logical move preflop.
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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2014, 01:23:02 AM »

Seth , are you only running your profile on the on tap tournaments on i poker?

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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2014, 03:01:43 AM »

Seth , are you only running your profile on the on tap tournaments on i poker?

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No, I've put it into some regular scheduled tournaments up to 5 euro, both rebuy and freezeout. 5 euro is more interesting for me than 1, but the 5 on taps don't run nearly often enough.

I have an idea where it's stronger but don't really want to be too specific until I've played more games on more accounts, just in case ipoker starts caring about bots, as unlikely as that is.


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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2014, 07:58:40 AM »

Its limping/folding with less than 15bb... did a limp with 8bb in utg w T9s, I think its a pretty exploitable strategy. The only limp with less 15bb good is in sb with good odds, or limp for trap (not necessary imo)

dont u think with less 15bb the strategy should be open push or fold, always?
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2014, 01:04:04 PM »

Yes, of course it's exploitable. It is intended to be a survivor more than a chip accumulator.which is not to everyone's taste.

I only wanted to show how easy it is to make changes to existing profiles.

There are very good mtt profiles in the marketplace that are much more refined and detailed and this (and original doodleMTT or millennium free version or lion or hybrid) will help newbies build a bankroll and learn what a profile does and why. Then they can either improve it or use their winnings to buy a marketplace profile.

As I said before, personally I'm not a fan of the limping, especially with a small stack.

I'm not into shoving until we get to below 10bb on ipoker. We can steal a lot of blinds and antes with between 10 and 15 bb. Other sites may well be different.
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2014, 01:47:17 PM »

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