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« on: September 11, 2018, 12:08:39 PM »

Hi,
I think there is a goldmine in this new game for ACR and soon PokerStars
If anyone is interested in helping a complete ungeek in programming a cash profile for this game, I am very interested.
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2018, 08:43:56 PM »

Are you talking about the new game that ACR is putting out soon? I figured that the table might change and present problems for the bot.
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2018, 09:30:37 PM »

It appears to be the same table, just the different format game.  Only a few tables available now and only on micro tables.
After watching for awhile, it is ripe for the picking with the right profile.
Thanx for the quick response.
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2018, 11:49:51 PM »

Do you mean the (short) stack tables with a max buyin of 50 BB's?
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2018, 02:20:34 AM »

No, rmcn;
Look at the holdem micro cash tables on the left column.  There, you will see some tables marked with 6+.  This stands for the cards in the deck.  6 is the lowest card in the deck rather than 2.  They have taken out the 2's, 3's, 4's, and 5's, leaving 6 as the low card.  This changes everything.  Also, 3 of a kind beats straight, Flush beats full house.  Very interesting and volatile game.
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2018, 02:50:02 AM »

Interesting. I thought you were talking about Asian 5-car stud for a minute.
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2018, 09:12:29 AM »

I was filtering full ring only so I did not have any listed.

All empty right now but will try and watch them play later today.

May be able to help in creating / modifying a profile  thumbsup
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2018, 03:11:02 PM »

Yes, I was hoping to modify.  Note that the probability of winning changes.  I don't know how to address that in Shanky.
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2018, 03:34:40 PM »

Yes, I was hoping to modify.  Note that the probability of winning changes.  I don't know how to address that in Shanky.
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IMO this is not possible without significant changes within the bot software. Sure you can edit your code with the new Winning Hand table, but for ex. lowest str8 is now A6789 instead of A2345. So there has to be some core changes within the software to realize that.
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2018, 04:30:39 PM »

I disagree it's very possible.  You need to write a cash profile that handles all conditions and not one that just modifies/enhances Doodle and the BOT programs default plays.  There are many tournament profiles, KGB for one, that do not pass hands to the BOT for default handling.  I have never looked for or remember using a cash one setup that way except for my own.

Straight vs 3 of kind and flush versus full house are easily coded for and definitely mean you can not pass the hand for default processing.  The low straight is probably a little more difficult but once coded becomes a non-issue.  I suspect this is where some of the weakness is as changing those perceptions of good hand or draw will be a challenge mentally.





 
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2018, 10:13:11 PM »

Well, I hope you are right, rmcn.  For the reasons, you just described, it is a very good game to exploit.  It will be hard for players to think the 'new' way
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2018, 09:40:48 PM »

I disagree it's very possible.  You need to write a cash profile that handles all conditions and not one that just modifies/enhances Doodle and the BOT programs default plays.  There are many tournament profiles, KGB for one, that do not pass hands to the BOT for default handling.  I have never looked for or remember using a cash one setup that way except for my own.

Straight vs 3 of kind and flush versus full house are easily coded for and definitely mean you can not pass the hand for default processing.  The low straight is probably a little more difficult but once coded becomes a non-issue.  I suspect this is where some of the weakness is as changing those perceptions of good hand or draw will be a challenge mentally.

 


I dont talk about playing specific situations. A6789 will not be handeled as str8. Those outcomes are handeled by the bot, not the profile. There is no code in ppl for redefining hand constelations.
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2018, 10:40:22 PM »

I dont talk about playing specific situations. A6789 will not be handeled as str8. Those outcomes are handeled by the bot, not the profile. There is no code in ppl for redefining hand constelations.

Actually the only way to do it is using user variables...But good luck on writing all conditions of an A6789 straight...
But if you managed to do it...

You can do something like when User_A6789 or HaveStraight User_HaveStraight.....
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2018, 12:21:08 AM »

Actually the only way to do it is using user variables...But good luck on writing all conditions of an A6789 straight...
But if you managed to do it...

You can do something like when User_A6789 or HaveStraight User_HaveStraight.....

That could work. But no matter if you recode an existing profile or go from scratch, this is a ton of work especially if you need to come up with  a complete new strategy.
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2018, 04:03:57 PM »

Not so much a new strategy as a new set of prime hands.  There is a prime hand list available online.
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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2018, 09:52:52 PM »

Here is a very good article that includes handranking:
https://www.pokerstrategy.com/poker/six-plus-holdem-strategy/
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