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Mrphil
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« on: June 23, 2018, 07:28:38 PM »

So I was looking through hands and came across this one:

Shanky Technologies Holdem Version 9.1.3: Hand: Js Jd
Players = 5 have JJ
If calls = 3 or more raise and call or raises, else raise but fold if two raises cold
hands played in session = 271
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 1, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 1
casino = *redacted* 6 Max, No Limit Cash, BB = 0.10, Pot = 1 BBs, Stack = 10.05, TI = 0 BBs
Amount To Call = 1 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 238, Action = raise 2 force
typing 0.30
clicking Raise
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 1, checks = 0, calls = 2, bets = 0, folds = 3
casino = *redacted* Max, No Limit Cash, BB = 0.10, Pot = 15 BBs, Stack = 9.75, TI = 3 BBs
Amount To Call = 7 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 1572, Action = call force
clicking Call
Flop: 2h Kc 5c
Board: 2 suits no possible straight
have pocket pair between middle and top board card
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino =*redacted* 6 Max, No Limit Cash, BB = 0.10, Pot = 21 BBs, Stack = 9.00, TI = 10 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Bet
Matching user defined condition at line 2593, Action = call force
clicking Check
Turn: 2h Kc 5c Jc
Board: No Pair possible flush three of one suit, including possible straights needing two cards
have any set
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino = *redacted* Max, No Limit Cash, BB = 0.10, Pot = 21 BBs, Stack = 9.00, TI = 10 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Raise if no raises
typing 1.39
clicking Bet
River: 2h Kc 5c Jc 8d
Board: No Pair possible flush three of one suit, including possible straights needing two cards
have any set
in timer: players = 5, folds in game= 4, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 0, folds = 0
casino =*redacted* 6 Max, No Limit Cash, BB = 0.10, Pot = 47 BBs, Stack = 7.61, TI = 24 BBs
Amount To Call = 0 BBs
opponents = 1, position = first
Bet
Matching user defined condition at line 7246, Action = call force
clicking Check
in timer: players = 4, folds in game= 3, raises = 0, checks = 0, calls = 0, bets = 1, folds = -1
casino = *redacted* Max, No Limit Cash, BB = 0.10, Pot = 121 BBs, Stack = 7.61, TI = 24 BBs
Amount To Call = 73 BBs
Matching user defined condition at line 7248, Action = fold force
clicking Fold


7246 and 7248 both come from the same code block for special actions when the board is bad:

7245 open line is: when FlushPossible and not (havenuts or HaveQuads or HaveFullHouse or HaveFlush or HaveNutFlush ) and not(suitsonflop = 3)

7246 closed line is: when Bets = 0 and Raises = 0 and Position = First and PotSize > 40 Call Force
7248 closed line is: When bets = 1  and AmountToCall > 50% PotSize  and AmountToCall > 35  and not ( TotalInvested > 120% StackSize  or StackSize < 25 ) fold force

Now, is this the right move to make here?

I was thinking of adding in code above this line for when we have a set and there was a flushpossibleonturn and no betting on turn to at least call or raisemax the river bet from opponent.

How would you guys play this hand? The opponent overbet the river with the flushpossible, so he may have had the flush after all, but I would think he would have bet on the turn.

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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2018, 09:09:23 PM »

Once you check that river you absolutely must call, even with something like KQ. Checking a heads-up river when the action has been light thus far (to induce a bluff) is a common play when you hold any kind of decent hand. The fact you hold a strong hand become irrelevant, unless it is strong enough to raise with. That would be a better debate.

I think I would raise and make a crying call if they push.

I like the default approach better, bet and call.
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2018, 09:34:47 PM »

Once you check that river you absolutely must call, even with something like KQ. Checking a heads-up river when the action has been light thus far (to induce a bluff) is a common play when you hold any kind of decent hand. The fact you hold a strong hand become irrelevant, unless it is strong enough to raise with. That would be a better debate.

I think I would raise and make a crying call if they push.

I like the default approach better, bet and call.

Okay, so cbet the river and call to a push is what you recommend.

I doubt I could have even raised him considering he bet 73bb into a 47bb pot (he probably went all-in).

I can go with that. I think the code was trying to prevent us from losing big on flush boards, but that's just poker I guess.
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2018, 12:06:40 AM »

I think we got bluffed there.
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